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		<title>By: Res Judicata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Res Judicata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 15:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all of the other enlightening threads, I missed this one until now.  Before meeting me, my XEUM said he was &quot;scared of me&quot;.  Since we met on an online site, he knew that I was an independent, professional, higher-education level woman with many interests and activities.  Once he met me, he seemed to feel very comfortable.  On the last night I saw him, he wanted to &quot;see me more&quot;, and listed all of the ways we would do that -- concerts, movies, etc.  Due to the press of other personal matters, he had not seen me in awhile, and told me how much he missed me.  After that, he basically jettisoned me from his life. After sorting this out for the last three months, I have determined that: (1) he was scared of being with someone like me -- self-sufficient -- since he had been married to a stay-at-home wife by whom he had three kids.  I was not like any other female he had met; let alone, had dated or had married; (2) in the end, he was scared of his depth of feelings for me, as he had just left a long-term marriage and could not commit to another long-term relationship as he was still sorting out the residue of the first one.  Maybe he was afraid that I would suck the life out of him, or something! I miss him, and wish him well, but have tried to move on.  I met someone else about a week ago who seems very promising and, more importantly, emotionally available.  I guess the point of all of this is to learn, early on the red flags: much sizzle, then huge fizzle; rush to get to the sex part; lack of commitment on simple things like showing up for a date or concert; putting you tenth on a list of five important things; etc.  It sucks -- but I am trying to categorize it as an important life lesson, and am trying to move on.  I sympathize with all caught up with similar EUMs - they are such a waste of energy with their emotional vampirism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all of the other enlightening threads, I missed this one until now.  Before meeting me, my XEUM said he was &#8220;scared of me&#8221;.  Since we met on an online site, he knew that I was an independent, professional, higher-education level woman with many interests and activities.  Once he met me, he seemed to feel very comfortable.  On the last night I saw him, he wanted to &#8220;see me more&#8221;, and listed all of the ways we would do that &#8212; concerts, movies, etc.  Due to the press of other personal matters, he had not seen me in awhile, and told me how much he missed me.  After that, he basically jettisoned me from his life. After sorting this out for the last three months, I have determined that: (1) he was scared of being with someone like me &#8212; self-sufficient &#8212; since he had been married to a stay-at-home wife by whom he had three kids.  I was not like any other female he had met; let alone, had dated or had married; (2) in the end, he was scared of his depth of feelings for me, as he had just left a long-term marriage and could not commit to another long-term relationship as he was still sorting out the residue of the first one.  Maybe he was afraid that I would suck the life out of him, or something! I miss him, and wish him well, but have tried to move on.  I met someone else about a week ago who seems very promising and, more importantly, emotionally available.  I guess the point of all of this is to learn, early on the red flags: much sizzle, then huge fizzle; rush to get to the sex part; lack of commitment on simple things like showing up for a date or concert; putting you tenth on a list of five important things; etc.  It sucks &#8212; but I am trying to categorize it as an important life lesson, and am trying to move on.  I sympathize with all caught up with similar EUMs &#8211; they are such a waste of energy with their emotional vampirism.</p>
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		<title>By: ph2072</title>
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		<dc:creator>ph2072</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clarifying the &quot;I&#039;m scared&quot; garbage, which I kinda figured was bulls--t.  I&#039;ll keep this in mind if I ever hear this told to me in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clarifying the &#8220;I&#8217;m scared&#8221; garbage, which I kinda figured was bulls&#8211;t.  I&#8217;ll keep this in mind if I ever hear this told to me in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NML you are right a man who says that &quot;I am scared of you&quot; is unavailable! He obviously has his own &quot;issues&quot; considering he is a cop dealing with depression. I agree that the woman who posted this should look at why she is attracting these types of men. Obviously a secure, confident man wouldn&#039;t be intimidated; perhaps even if she found a man who shared her interests... the important thing is when she is told this by a man is knowing what to do with the feedback which is: discard the invaluable information... and man who is unavailable for her. Any man who says he is scared; is just someone who doesn&#039;t know enough about you in the first place because he is not geniunely interested; doesn&#039;t have the capacity for a relationship, etc... etc... and as for people putting labels on cops, military, firefighters it&#039;s wrong... judge people individually...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NML you are right a man who says that &#8220;I am scared of you&#8221; is unavailable! He obviously has his own &#8220;issues&#8221; considering he is a cop dealing with depression. I agree that the woman who posted this should look at why she is attracting these types of men. Obviously a secure, confident man wouldn&#8217;t be intimidated; perhaps even if she found a man who shared her interests&#8230; the important thing is when she is told this by a man is knowing what to do with the feedback which is: discard the invaluable information&#8230; and man who is unavailable for her. Any man who says he is scared; is just someone who doesn&#8217;t know enough about you in the first place because he is not geniunely interested; doesn&#8217;t have the capacity for a relationship, etc&#8230; etc&#8230; and as for people putting labels on cops, military, firefighters it&#8217;s wrong&#8230; judge people individually&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also educated, independent, into extreme sports, and I know that the fact that I have many male friends tend to intimidate some men.

Guess this was what attracted my ex-EUM(or whatever he is) in the first place, but after a few weeks of dating he started his control- thing. Subtle at first, then more direct - criticizing my clothes (What&#039;s wrong with a white, decent summer dress on a Casual Friday?)
and explaining how &quot;picky&quot; he was when it came to women. I didn&#039;t take the bait and ignored it and that really bothered him, I could tell he didn&#039;t know how to behave around me. 

When he realized that i would not respond to his stupid game playing he would say things like &quot;I&#039;m afraid of you&quot;. Which makes perfectly sense: he can&#039;t control me, and that means I am a potential threath to his self esteem and illusions. 
He&#039;s unable to have an equal, balanced relationship, period. 

(Turned out he had a long-term girlfriend on the side, but that&#039;s another story... or not.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also educated, independent, into extreme sports, and I know that the fact that I have many male friends tend to intimidate some men.</p>
<p>Guess this was what attracted my ex-EUM(or whatever he is) in the first place, but after a few weeks of dating he started his control- thing. Subtle at first, then more direct &#8211; criticizing my clothes (What&#8217;s wrong with a white, decent summer dress on a Casual Friday?)<br />
and explaining how &#8220;picky&#8221; he was when it came to women. I didn&#8217;t take the bait and ignored it and that really bothered him, I could tell he didn&#8217;t know how to behave around me. </p>
<p>When he realized that i would not respond to his stupid game playing he would say things like &#8220;I&#8217;m afraid of you&#8221;. Which makes perfectly sense: he can&#8217;t control me, and that means I am a potential threath to his self esteem and illusions.<br />
He&#8217;s unable to have an equal, balanced relationship, period. </p>
<p>(Turned out he had a long-term girlfriend on the side, but that&#8217;s another story&#8230; or not.)</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My assclown broke up with me about two months ago. He is not a cop....but he invited me to &quot;hang out&quot; as he wants me &quot;to be in his life&quot;. bla bla bla (I have since said: Disappear, please) 

But I am reminded how he acted when we went out one time after we broke up. He acted so bizarre and more closed off than usual. I, of course acted like it wasn&#039;t happening, and chattered through the date. But finally, I asked, &quot;Whats wrong?&quot; He initiated the date. He blurts out, &quot;I am nervous! I don&#039;t know - you make me nervous!&quot; (He said it a little too loud and abruptly) 

I was completely perplexed. We had been shagging and dating for nearly a year. Vacations together, etc. Nervous? As a good Fallback Girl - I took this as a sign of his &quot;still loving me&quot; and how beautiful, succesful, etc. I am. But now reading this - I realize - it is not unique. It is not something that just &quot;he felt towards me&quot;. It is just another &quot;thing&quot; between a Mr. Unavailable and a Fallback Girl - and I don&#039;t care what it is about anymore. Too much energy to solve a puzzle that was missing pieces right out of the box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My assclown broke up with me about two months ago. He is not a cop&#8230;.but he invited me to &#8220;hang out&#8221; as he wants me &#8220;to be in his life&#8221;. bla bla bla (I have since said: Disappear, please) </p>
<p>But I am reminded how he acted when we went out one time after we broke up. He acted so bizarre and more closed off than usual. I, of course acted like it wasn&#8217;t happening, and chattered through the date. But finally, I asked, &#8220;Whats wrong?&#8221; He initiated the date. He blurts out, &#8220;I am nervous! I don&#8217;t know &#8211; you make me nervous!&#8221; (He said it a little too loud and abruptly) </p>
<p>I was completely perplexed. We had been shagging and dating for nearly a year. Vacations together, etc. Nervous? As a good Fallback Girl &#8211; I took this as a sign of his &#8220;still loving me&#8221; and how beautiful, succesful, etc. I am. But now reading this &#8211; I realize &#8211; it is not unique. It is not something that just &#8220;he felt towards me&#8221;. It is just another &#8220;thing&#8221; between a Mr. Unavailable and a Fallback Girl &#8211; and I don&#8217;t care what it is about anymore. Too much energy to solve a puzzle that was missing pieces right out of the box.</p>
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		<title>By: finallyseenthelight</title>
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		<dc:creator>finallyseenthelight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mel...my ex-EUM used to say to me that I scare him and what he was referring to meant his fear of commitment...that I was going to have expectations of him being a responsible, caring, loving partner...did you consider that he might have meant &quot;his fears&quot; not scared in the sense of you will do bodily harm to him.

Caroline - I relate to you with the aging factor.  I&#039;m 46, have been divorced 2x in my early twenties and then been in relationships mostly with EUMs since.  Last 2 relationships - MM for 4yrs. and my latest ex-EUM for over 2 years.  The age factor kept me in it...besides that I literally &quot;crazy about him.&quot;  He was physically a beautiful, sexy man and that passion and chemistry kept me in it.  What I wasn&#039;t considering, and you should...is that you are worrying about your age now...the longer you stay in this unhealthy relationship the older you will be when you get out...time doesn&#039;t stand still...you know deep down in your gut that he&#039;s not right for you and you are believing his BS...antibiotic meds for TB do not make someone act differently...he&#039;s just giving you excuses for his poor behavior and not meeting your needs, because he knows he can get away with it.

We&#039;ve all been down that road...we are here for you!
Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mel&#8230;my ex-EUM used to say to me that I scare him and what he was referring to meant his fear of commitment&#8230;that I was going to have expectations of him being a responsible, caring, loving partner&#8230;did you consider that he might have meant &#8220;his fears&#8221; not scared in the sense of you will do bodily harm to him.</p>
<p>Caroline &#8211; I relate to you with the aging factor.  I&#8217;m 46, have been divorced 2x in my early twenties and then been in relationships mostly with EUMs since.  Last 2 relationships &#8211; MM for 4yrs. and my latest ex-EUM for over 2 years.  The age factor kept me in it&#8230;besides that I literally &#8220;crazy about him.&#8221;  He was physically a beautiful, sexy man and that passion and chemistry kept me in it.  What I wasn&#8217;t considering, and you should&#8230;is that you are worrying about your age now&#8230;the longer you stay in this unhealthy relationship the older you will be when you get out&#8230;time doesn&#8217;t stand still&#8230;you know deep down in your gut that he&#8217;s not right for you and you are believing his BS&#8230;antibiotic meds for TB do not make someone act differently&#8230;he&#8217;s just giving you excuses for his poor behavior and not meeting your needs, because he knows he can get away with it.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all been down that road&#8230;we are here for you!<br />
Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad I read this post. I&#039;ve just ended it with my EUM. After weeks of different reasons why I couldn&#039;t go to visit him (he lives in north England, I live South) he came up with: I&#039;m scared of you.
I said what crap is this - if you&#039;re scared of me we shouldn&#039;t be together, and he retracted it, but I had been wondering what on earth he meant. He was so much bigger and stronger than me but I found myself wondering if I came across as somebody likely to be violent (I would never be violent) because I can be forceful in speech.
It made  me a bit paranoid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad I read this post. I&#8217;ve just ended it with my EUM. After weeks of different reasons why I couldn&#8217;t go to visit him (he lives in north England, I live South) he came up with: I&#8217;m scared of you.<br />
I said what crap is this &#8211; if you&#8217;re scared of me we shouldn&#8217;t be together, and he retracted it, but I had been wondering what on earth he meant. He was so much bigger and stronger than me but I found myself wondering if I came across as somebody likely to be violent (I would never be violent) because I can be forceful in speech.<br />
It made  me a bit paranoid.</p>
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		<title>By: nysharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>nysharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz-- I did the same thing. hetoxed, dating hiatus, whatever. I am in such a good place now that dating is fun and just the icing on the cake.
Hang in there Caroline but keep a journal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz&#8211; I did the same thing. hetoxed, dating hiatus, whatever. I am in such a good place now that dating is fun and just the icing on the cake.<br />
Hang in there Caroline but keep a journal.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m scared of you? What utter BS this is. Real men don&#039;t say these things to women. Men like this, I just cock my head to the side and tell ask them what the hell is wrong with you and what are you talking about. If that makes me arrogant so be it. I was a hard ass in my 20s and got soft in my 30s and fell into some very unfortunate experiences, finding this site has helped me remember who I am and find myself, now approaching my 40s I know I can take care of myself and I can be alone if need be, so no jerk can get in because there is no place for them to fit in. I am completely comfortable telling those sorry assclowns who mistake me for a weak woman to take a hike. I have found a great guy to be with, but he knows I won&#039;t put up with any crazy behaviors. I knows he is lucky to be with me and I act like he is. But it doesn&#039;t work if you don&#039;t really believe it inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m scared of you? What utter BS this is. Real men don&#8217;t say these things to women. Men like this, I just cock my head to the side and tell ask them what the hell is wrong with you and what are you talking about. If that makes me arrogant so be it. I was a hard ass in my 20s and got soft in my 30s and fell into some very unfortunate experiences, finding this site has helped me remember who I am and find myself, now approaching my 40s I know I can take care of myself and I can be alone if need be, so no jerk can get in because there is no place for them to fit in. I am completely comfortable telling those sorry assclowns who mistake me for a weak woman to take a hike. I have found a great guy to be with, but he knows I won&#8217;t put up with any crazy behaviors. I knows he is lucky to be with me and I act like he is. But it doesn&#8217;t work if you don&#8217;t really believe it inside.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Caroline - I am fast approaching 50 myself and have been divorced for 14 years now. At times, I have worried that I will end up alone when one dating relationship or another has not worked out. Unfortunately, a lot of those dating relationships over the past decade haved been with EUM - AKA &quot;assclowns.&quot;

I finally became fed up, recognized my bad dating patterns and took a time out. It has taken a while, but I had to come to a place where I became comfortable with me and the idea that I might not finally have a man to share in the golden years. I came to question why it is necesssary to have a man to feel happy or fulfilled in life. I realized that it is not necessary. There are plenty of other great ways to give and receive and find fulfillment in life. In my case, I find it through my friends, family, work, hobbies, and studies. 

If a good man comes along - great!  If that does not happen, that&#039;s okay too. But, I&#039;m not going to waste time and energy on a jackass who really does not care about me and creates a lot of negative drama. To me, life is far worse with an EUM, than it is alone and doing good things with my time and energy. 

Perhaps it is time to take a break again and reflect on what will make you truly happy.....

And yes, you are correct - his excuses for his bad behavior are just that - excuses. Antibiotics do have side affects, but aggression is not one of them....

Be Good to Yourself Caroline! :)

Liz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Caroline &#8211; I am fast approaching 50 myself and have been divorced for 14 years now. At times, I have worried that I will end up alone when one dating relationship or another has not worked out. Unfortunately, a lot of those dating relationships over the past decade haved been with EUM &#8211; AKA &#8220;assclowns.&#8221;</p>
<p>I finally became fed up, recognized my bad dating patterns and took a time out. It has taken a while, but I had to come to a place where I became comfortable with me and the idea that I might not finally have a man to share in the golden years. I came to question why it is necesssary to have a man to feel happy or fulfilled in life. I realized that it is not necessary. There are plenty of other great ways to give and receive and find fulfillment in life. In my case, I find it through my friends, family, work, hobbies, and studies. </p>
<p>If a good man comes along &#8211; great!  If that does not happen, that&#8217;s okay too. But, I&#8217;m not going to waste time and energy on a jackass who really does not care about me and creates a lot of negative drama. To me, life is far worse with an EUM, than it is alone and doing good things with my time and energy. </p>
<p>Perhaps it is time to take a break again and reflect on what will make you truly happy&#8230;..</p>
<p>And yes, you are correct &#8211; his excuses for his bad behavior are just that &#8211; excuses. Antibiotics do have side affects, but aggression is not one of them&#8230;.</p>
<p>Be Good to Yourself Caroline! <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Liz</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh nysharon I hope the same things will happen to me I sort of gave up even  I was a very optimistic character all my life ,I do not know what is happening to me in this field. I always manage to diguise my vunerability the minute I step out of my house .
my crude cop appologised to me and pretended he did not realised the how bad he was he was behaving because he is not used to  live with anyone and at the same time he is taking this strong course of antibiotic that the doctor has prescibed to him and his team as a prevention because they got in touch with  an infected criminal who has tb, he said those pills makes him aggressive and ill . 
so I took him back knowing that he will never change .
BRAD , since almost two years ago I have been reading your posts on the MM blog always admired your wisdom and analyses today you have answered me back to open my blind eyes about my certain facts and my bad habits which I found very difficult to get rid of .
after my involvement with MM I have taken steps back by leaving my invironment to work out on my issues and patterns I thought I have recovered until that day when I met my cop I went back to my old behaviour the minute I was confronted with a EUM thinking hey am strong now I can handle it  now  ,no way I will let him mess me up like my ex husband and my MM did before, it seems to me I sound like an alcohol  addict  , maybe I am ,knowing that I have a red flag flying before my eyes in my house and dont want to do anything about it until the sh...t hit the fan. I am quite aware of the danger I feel maybe I could live some time of intimicy to feel I am alive and not on the margin waiting for the unwaitable mind you i am quite active during th day I go to the gym daily I have two great dogs not so many friends because am new in this village .
So Brad your words make sense BUT how can I manage to apply it on me deep down I feel my age factor is my biggest issue I am so so scared again Brad thanks for your wisdom .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh nysharon I hope the same things will happen to me I sort of gave up even  I was a very optimistic character all my life ,I do not know what is happening to me in this field. I always manage to diguise my vunerability the minute I step out of my house .<br />
my crude cop appologised to me and pretended he did not realised the how bad he was he was behaving because he is not used to  live with anyone and at the same time he is taking this strong course of antibiotic that the doctor has prescibed to him and his team as a prevention because they got in touch with  an infected criminal who has tb, he said those pills makes him aggressive and ill .<br />
so I took him back knowing that he will never change .<br />
BRAD , since almost two years ago I have been reading your posts on the MM blog always admired your wisdom and analyses today you have answered me back to open my blind eyes about my certain facts and my bad habits which I found very difficult to get rid of .<br />
after my involvement with MM I have taken steps back by leaving my invironment to work out on my issues and patterns I thought I have recovered until that day when I met my cop I went back to my old behaviour the minute I was confronted with a EUM thinking hey am strong now I can handle it  now  ,no way I will let him mess me up like my ex husband and my MM did before, it seems to me I sound like an alcohol  addict  , maybe I am ,knowing that I have a red flag flying before my eyes in my house and dont want to do anything about it until the sh&#8230;t hit the fan. I am quite aware of the danger I feel maybe I could live some time of intimicy to feel I am alive and not on the margin waiting for the unwaitable mind you i am quite active during th day I go to the gym daily I have two great dogs not so many friends because am new in this village .<br />
So Brad your words make sense BUT how can I manage to apply it on me deep down I feel my age factor is my biggest issue I am so so scared again Brad thanks for your wisdom .</p>
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		<title>By: Brad K.</title>
		<link>http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/advice-do-i-make-men-nervous-or-are-these-men-just-assclowns/comment-page-1/#comment-198645</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caroline,  life isn&#039;t over at fifty.  Heck, I already made it to 56!  Sorry, not that funny, I know.

Two plus two is supposed to equal four.  You are supposed to enjoy meeting his needs.  It seems you are doing pretty well at meeting his needs - but you aren&#039;t enjoying it.  You are adding two plus one, and keep trying to make it come out to four.  You left something out of your equation - you.

When we date, we have an obligation to ourselves, our families, and our prospective partners - to have fun.  We have to enjoy ourselves or we are cheating ourselves, lying to our prospective partner, and put everyone at risk.  We waste time, effort, money, and wear and tear on our emotions - and we distract ourselves from finding who we are, from living.

And make no mistake, you are on a date.  Your EUM-cop-whatever is a perpetual dater - he has no concept of what it means to be in a family, and no notion to change his social role as a dater.  He is dating.  He is sharing a bed and a house with you, and still considers other women part of his &#039;social life&#039;,  He is dating.

Deep down, you believe that men flit about, sow wild oats with unsuitable women, then settle down to a family.  You fear and believe it is you that hasn&#039;t yet made him feel he has found love, a home, a life-mate.  In reality, this myth of &#039;typical&#039; guy behavior is wrong, illogical, and harmful.  Any guy that gets good at finding bed partners has a life-skill of finding bed partners - and will never abandon that skill at finding (new) bed partners, whether he (or she) marries or stumbles into a long term relationship.  It doesn&#039;t happen.

Caroline, it seems you need more women friends to balance your life - married women content in their marriage.  Please consider carefully about seeing someone that doesn&#039;t have impeccable character - honest, respectful, honorable, trusted.  You want someone that has good emotional bonds to family and friends.

I have to wonder about this friend that told you the cop wanted to see you - do you respect the people she hangs out with (except for you of course!)?  Is your friend a good judge of character?  

But you really have to send this guy on his way.  For one thing, life is too short to be wasting it on a dater - his presence keeps you from meeting someone that might be a suitable mate-prospect, and keeps you from being available.  Dealing with his crap (just how many women *do* you want to be sleeping with, second hand?) is causing you hurt, his presence is deepening a bond you feel toward him (not that he likely feels anything more than being on a second date) - that you will have to grieve over when he goes.  Letting him drag things on causes more pain and waste of time, with nothing good accomplished.

And you need to consider why you let this bum hang about, why you let someone else decide what you would do, why you put his wishes before your needs - why, at the beginning of  a relationship, you endeavored to meet his needs when his actions don&#039;t show respect for you.  No relationship is perfect, and as time goes by we make our sacrifices and small compromises when there is need.  But at the beginning, before you are satisfied that he is reasonable, responsible, respectable, honorable - and fun (for you!) to interact with, a true joy to be around - problems are *warning flags*, not obligations.

Blessed be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caroline,  life isn&#8217;t over at fifty.  Heck, I already made it to 56!  Sorry, not that funny, I know.</p>
<p>Two plus two is supposed to equal four.  You are supposed to enjoy meeting his needs.  It seems you are doing pretty well at meeting his needs &#8211; but you aren&#8217;t enjoying it.  You are adding two plus one, and keep trying to make it come out to four.  You left something out of your equation &#8211; you.</p>
<p>When we date, we have an obligation to ourselves, our families, and our prospective partners &#8211; to have fun.  We have to enjoy ourselves or we are cheating ourselves, lying to our prospective partner, and put everyone at risk.  We waste time, effort, money, and wear and tear on our emotions &#8211; and we distract ourselves from finding who we are, from living.</p>
<p>And make no mistake, you are on a date.  Your EUM-cop-whatever is a perpetual dater &#8211; he has no concept of what it means to be in a family, and no notion to change his social role as a dater.  He is dating.  He is sharing a bed and a house with you, and still considers other women part of his &#8216;social life&#8217;,  He is dating.</p>
<p>Deep down, you believe that men flit about, sow wild oats with unsuitable women, then settle down to a family.  You fear and believe it is you that hasn&#8217;t yet made him feel he has found love, a home, a life-mate.  In reality, this myth of &#8216;typical&#8217; guy behavior is wrong, illogical, and harmful.  Any guy that gets good at finding bed partners has a life-skill of finding bed partners &#8211; and will never abandon that skill at finding (new) bed partners, whether he (or she) marries or stumbles into a long term relationship.  It doesn&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>Caroline, it seems you need more women friends to balance your life &#8211; married women content in their marriage.  Please consider carefully about seeing someone that doesn&#8217;t have impeccable character &#8211; honest, respectful, honorable, trusted.  You want someone that has good emotional bonds to family and friends.</p>
<p>I have to wonder about this friend that told you the cop wanted to see you &#8211; do you respect the people she hangs out with (except for you of course!)?  Is your friend a good judge of character?  </p>
<p>But you really have to send this guy on his way.  For one thing, life is too short to be wasting it on a dater &#8211; his presence keeps you from meeting someone that might be a suitable mate-prospect, and keeps you from being available.  Dealing with his crap (just how many women *do* you want to be sleeping with, second hand?) is causing you hurt, his presence is deepening a bond you feel toward him (not that he likely feels anything more than being on a second date) &#8211; that you will have to grieve over when he goes.  Letting him drag things on causes more pain and waste of time, with nothing good accomplished.</p>
<p>And you need to consider why you let this bum hang about, why you let someone else decide what you would do, why you put his wishes before your needs &#8211; why, at the beginning of  a relationship, you endeavored to meet his needs when his actions don&#8217;t show respect for you.  No relationship is perfect, and as time goes by we make our sacrifices and small compromises when there is need.  But at the beginning, before you are satisfied that he is reasonable, responsible, respectable, honorable &#8211; and fun (for you!) to interact with, a true joy to be around &#8211; problems are *warning flags*, not obligations.</p>
<p>Blessed be.</p>
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		<title>By: nysharon</title>
		<link>http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/advice-do-i-make-men-nervous-or-are-these-men-just-assclowns/comment-page-1/#comment-198377</link>
		<dc:creator>nysharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another thing :-)
Eleanor Roosevelt said &quot;Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another thing <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Eleanor Roosevelt said &#8220;Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: nysharon</title>
		<link>http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/advice-do-i-make-men-nervous-or-are-these-men-just-assclowns/comment-page-1/#comment-198372</link>
		<dc:creator>nysharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another thing. On the orginal topic, anyone who is scared of you......is not worthy of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another thing. On the orginal topic, anyone who is scared of you&#8230;&#8230;is not worthy of you.</p>
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		<title>By: nysharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>nysharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow -- is all I have to say to you Caroline. Your life is not over silly. I am 51 and having the time of my life dating since I simply posted my picture online with not much else. There are tons of great nice guys out there. Funny too, that I just ended a relationship with a MM who is a Cop. :) I work in the field myself, and it IS about control. They find your weakness and attack it. You start to view yourself through their distorted feedback. There is also a sense of entitlement that comes in this work. My guy felt that he could continue to string me along and not leave his wife. When I misbehaved or dated others, he made a scene in public because he knew I would look like the bad girl, and his wife would never kick him out. Geesse, kick his ass out. Don&#039;t be so hard on yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8212; is all I have to say to you Caroline. Your life is not over silly. I am 51 and having the time of my life dating since I simply posted my picture online with not much else. There are tons of great nice guys out there. Funny too, that I just ended a relationship with a MM who is a Cop. <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I work in the field myself, and it IS about control. They find your weakness and attack it. You start to view yourself through their distorted feedback. There is also a sense of entitlement that comes in this work. My guy felt that he could continue to string me along and not leave his wife. When I misbehaved or dated others, he made a scene in public because he knew I would look like the bad girl, and his wife would never kick him out. Geesse, kick his ass out. Don&#8217;t be so hard on yourself.</p>
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