Are we dating our fathers? That familiar “daddy feeling”

May 7th, 2008 · 12 Comments

girl and dad hanging out on the pierIn another excerpt from Mr Unavailable and the Fallback Girl: Book Two (I promise to explain the when’s, how’s and the delay), I explore the all too familiar “daddy feeling” - Basing many of your relationships and dating choices on unresolved issues and beliefs that derive from your relationship (or lack thereof) with your father and unknowingly creating a familiar comfortable (yet still uncomfortable) feeling in your adult relationships.

“With parental relationships, it can all be about setting the tone. You may or may not have a good relationship with your mother, but your chances of having a bad relationship with yourself and future partners, further increases with a dubious interaction with your own father or strong male figure.

The pattern of systematically being involved with emotionally unavailable men can be deep rooted due to patterns that we have learnt in our childhood. It doesn’t have to be an absentee father or a ‘bad’ father; it may just be that the significant male figure in our life didn’t express his emotions or made you work hard for his attentions and affections, and for all intents and purposes, he was emotionally unavailable.

It’s called going after what you know.

Very often, men have to be ‘strong like bull’ and as providers they focus on providing security and fostering a good life, often stemming from the material and practical aspects of life, with very little thought given to how much emotional sustenance is being given to their children. They look around them and see food on the table, a mother doing her ‘motherly bit’, a car in the driveway and everything provided for, plus they work long hours, and they determine that their work is done. There is an element of them thinking ‘We’re here, aren’t we?’ and further on, you believe that all a man has to do is show up, not participate.

This type of father had good intentions and was doing the best he could, often based on his own experience of being parented, but if you have grown up in an environment like this, it can have you looking for love in all the wrong places. In life we often need emotional attention and what if you didn’t get it, or you spent a lot of energy trying to get this attention from him? Or what if at some point you subconsciously or consciously accepted that this is how men are with their emotions and became used to emotionally unavailable men?

And being abandoned by your father can certainly ensure that you’re put on the path to desiring Mr Unavailable’s. It’s extremely difficult for most children to comprehend why their father is absent, even if they have a relatively happy home with their mother, or with her and subsequent partners. How do you understand why it appears that your father didn’t love you enough to stick around?

Whatever a father’s reasons are for abandoning his child, it can never quite be explained or rationalised, regardless of whether his reason involved the child or not.

Whether the father is in and out of her life, or doesn’t show up at all, both can lead to a woman growing up and finding herself seeking out relationships that replicate that sense of abandonment and sometimes she will also seek comfort with older men that fulfil the daddy need.

With the father that shows up from time to time, you get to learn how to seek his approval by trying to do all of the right things. The child mentality says that if you just do enough, he will stick around and be your father full time. And then he’s gone again.

Or if he never turns up, you not only fear abandonment by all men, but at the same time you may seek a relationship where you let them have more control, in the hope of finding that intangible feeling of comfort that you have been missing from your father all of your life. You end up being uncertain about what type of man to go for due to the lack of shining example in your life and will struggle to engage with men in a healthy way.

There is a term ‘father hunger’ which was pioneered in the book Father Hunger: Fathers, Daughters, and the Pursuit of Thinness by the author Ph.D Margo Pain. It is described as “the emptiness, and resulting food and body image disorders, experienced by women whose fathers were physically or emotionally absent.” Whilst it is not the scope of this book to look at food and body imaging, the book highlights the surety that when there isn’t a good connection between father and daughter, it will result in a variety of self-esteem issues. The book examines the fact that if a woman is unable to seek unconditional, healthy love and attention from the one man that she needs it from (her father), it will result in her believing that she is not good enough and that she must work extra hard for the attentions of men.

By seeking out men that give you that familiar ‘daddy’ feeling, you have become trapped in a vicious cycle, albeit one that feels totally normal to you because it is all that you know.

Many Fallback Girl’s don’t know what to do with the attentions of an available man because it’s a foreign concept, which has many of them running for the hills, because it seems scary and weird. They’ll be suspicious of him and call him ‘Too Nice To Date Twice’. It takes a lot to heal the damage done by a lack of connection with our fathers, and whilst you can’t turn back time, the key is to find ways to put yourself at peace with your past, and to reconcile yourself with a truer picture of yourself.

I want to get some more feedback from readers on this sensitive subject.

Do you suffer with that familiar “daddy feeling”? Your thoughts?

If you want to find out more about why we make some our relationship choices and get to understand Mr Unavailable’s you should be reading my ebook Mr Unavailable and the Fallback Girl. Find out more and buy and download.

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12 responses so far ↓

  • 1 FinallyOverIt // May 7, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    I have been chasing after “the daddy feeling” ever since I became interested in the opposite sex–probably starting in my early 20’s. My father can be described as the father that worked 14 hours a day, brought home the bacon, was a “good man” to my mother, but didn’t really have a clue about what to do with me, his only daughter. His main focus was on working and being a husband to my mom. In my early 20’s I had a “promiscuous” phase where I would go out with my girlfriends to bars and pick up men for one-night stands. And when I would find myself having feelings for any of these men, of course they were not interested in anything other than sex, and I would be devastated. I met my ex-husband when I was 25, who was an alcoholic, but I was in major denial and married him anyway. We were married for 17 years, we had a son who is 23 now, and I have been divorced for 10 years. I see my pattern pretty clearly–choosing men either just for sex, and then finding “the one” who was an alcoholic, and who was never able to meet my emotional needs. And as of today, I am recovering from a relationship with a man who I have know for three years as a friend, but who I fell in love with, and who has major issues of emotionally unavailability, messed up childhood, alcoholism, etc. So, needless to say, I have major issues of choosing the wrong men because I am “going with what I know” based on my relationship (or lack of) with my father, and then pounding my head against the wall because these relationships are leaving me empty. But, thankfully, I am learning a lot through this site, and through therapy, and am doing a lot of “personal” work within myself so that hopefully I can get off this emotional rollercoaster. There is nothing I want more than to have a healthy, loving, RECIPROCAL relationship with a man. Even through all of the bad days and sadness, I still remain hopeful!

  • 2 Karen // May 7, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    Hi NML. All of my relationships with men have been with EUM’s. Whenever I meet a guy who is really interested in me, I am not interested in them. I always just thought I had back luck that the attraction was never even.
    My father was/is the type that would provide anything that you needed if he could. But when it comes to showing emotion or dealing with others emotions he just can’t handle it.
    I understand the connection, but I reallly don’t know how to break it. I would like to be attracted to more sensitive men that show a genuine interest in being with me, but it never happens that way. I can honestly say that my self esteem is in pretty good shape and I feel that I have alot to offer in a relationship. I have never met a man that I find attractive that is interested in commitment and is emotionally available.
    My current BF is EUM to an extent. We go out about once a week, sometimes twice. I almost never hear from him in between dates but I always know we will have the one date - he is dependable that way. I get an occasional e mail or text. Thats about it. I have learned to just accept it since I have never had any luck with men. I am a single mother, so going out once a week is ok for now. I think we could probably just go on like this forever.
    My son’s father is absent from his life. I don’t want to raise him as an EUM, but I am afraid that my BF is teaching him just that. Is there hope of breaking the cycle for us girls that are “daddy hungry”?

  • 3 Cmdg // May 7, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    well … I think I purposely married someone the exact OPPOSITE of my father. You’d think that is a good thing… but sometimes his making it too easy for me to get attention/positive feedback or to get his agreement on something can cause me problems of its own… it is sometimes hard not to see him as “strong” and it can be hard to not feel that bizarre longing for someone more like my father…

    Hope that makes sense.

  • 4 Cmdg // May 7, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    oops - I cant edit that - I meant is is sometimes hard to not see him as “weak”… I do cringe when I say that, but it is the hard truth that just represents the work I still have to do.

  • 5 Brad K. // May 7, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    Karen, your BF may not be good co-parent material, and you are now worrying about his relationship with your son.

    Are you *certain* that your son is the only one suffering from this guy?

    NML, there is another complication. Most of us, men and women, are unsure about stray thoughts of incest. We know to avoid it, the damage it does. And most families do manage to avoid direct problems.

    But what about the Dad that gets confused about his daughter and his relationship to her, as she enters puberty and beyond? Some men have difficulties managing an emotional level with their wife, and find their daughters terrifying when they begin to exhibit sexuality. One reaction is to withdraw, emotionally, to avoid harm to the child, to avoid unseemly accusations, and to avoid unseemly thoughts about his daughter. Many parents withdraw from their children due to confusion during the teen years, until their kids *become adult*, marry, or have their first kid. This period of confusion, in the many families where it happens, will be several years in progress and the most recent behavior to influence a girl beginning to date. Which gives the family a skewed relationship with the girl, and skews her understanding or roles and relationships just when she is making the most important choices of her life - dating, how to select a date, and what that date should accomplish.

    Powerful thoughts, NML!

    Whether a girl ‘dates her father’, or identifies with and grows into Mom’s family roles and relationships might be an interesting question to explore - both would have about the same affect.

  • 6 Kim // May 7, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    NML - Gosh this is so sad & scary to me. I have enough issues myself but my childrens father (I have a boy & a girl) abandoned all of us 8 years ago. To make it worse he has 2 other children that he has been there for. Coaches their sports etc. It is so painful & I know my kids have to question why. What does this mean for them? I am afraid to ask. I can be the best mom in the world but I can’t replace their father. He has no contact with them at all. I have not dated anyone outside of the EUM who looked me up last year so there has been no role models for them. It has been one bad experience after another. Especially since my son got to know my EUM last year & he bailed too. This sucks.

  • 7 cheekie // May 8, 2008 at 8:14 am

    This is an excellent post NML. Another point to make is that it not only affects us as women, but men who have the same issues do not have a solid example of what a good, strong, emotionally connected male is.

    I have to say as well, that more so that a Daddy Complex, it is the persistent search to find someone to ‘take care of us’ and in that search, and in our misguided attempts at such, we make unrealistic demands based on what we ‘think’ a dedicated male should do or be.

    When you don’t have a good example, you tend to make your own. Based on bits n bobs culled from popular media, friends, etc.

    Abandonment is a such a huge issue for so many these days. I wonder why, however, we have allowed ourselves to be so paralysed by this.

    Throughout history this has happened, yet, we are one of the first generations to actually use it as an ‘excuse’.

    Being emotionally connected to your parents doesn’t mean the Hallmark card sentiments that so many believe it does.

    All it means is that you grow up knowing, feeling, and never questioning that someone is there for you. When you don’t have this, you question your worth, your value and your ability to discern the right kind of love and attention from the wrong.

    It is a very difficult issue, and there are no easy answers.
    All we can do is realise that as adults, we make our own choices for our own lives. Therefore, you must, absolutely must, figure out once and for all where your issues lie, and deal with them.
    Don’t dwell or excuse but DEAL.

    It’s all you can do. Just because someone else tarnished a very small percentage of your life, doesn’t mean that you should knowingly tarnish the rest of yours….

  • 8 nysharon // May 8, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    **Wow this took a gloomy turn! All families have some disfunction, because we are NOT PERFECT HUMANS.
    Karen> You are doing just fine. You are teaching your child that you can enjoy someone’s company and take care of yourself and your child. The key to taking care of our own children is to TALK about it. My ex was EUM (why I left-thank God) among other anger/manipulating issues and is repeating that pattern with my daughter. Her and I talk about it all the time. She is thriving and learning that there are things we just do not have control over but to express our feelings, and address it. I am teaching her how to take care of herself.
    Brad have you been reading alot of Freud lately?

  • 9 Karen // May 8, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    Sharon, thanks for the comment. That makes me feel better. You worded it perfectly, I am taking care of myself and my son and I enjoy someone’s company once in a while. He doesn’t take care of us. I sometimes feel the pressure to have the traditional “family” relationship from my friends and family, but that doesn’t always fit in every scenario.

  • 10 FinallyOverIt // May 8, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    I totally agree that we should not use our family dysfunction (show me one person who doesn’t have a messed up family!) as an excuse. I don’t blame anyone for my relationship challenges–I take full and complete ownership and responsibility. However, I do believe that knowledge is power, and the more tuned in we are to our “inner child” issues, the more we can make changes within ourselves to make better choices in the men (and friends) we choose to have in our lives. Although this is kind of a depressing topic, I think it’s at the root of why a lot of us continue to navigate toward men who are wrong for us. I don’t think knowing these things about ourselves is a recipe for disaster as we raise our own children–if anything, when our kids grow up and start dating, we can share our experiences with them and possibly help them make better choices regarding their own relationships, and maybe eventually this cycle can be broken. Sometimes in order to grow we are faced with realities that aren’t very pleasant, but we need to face them!

  • 11 Tulipa // May 10, 2008 at 10:45 am

    It took me a long time to realise what I was doing in my dating relationships which was connected to my lack of relationship to my dad, probably obvious to others. My dad decided when I was 7 that he would sign papers giving all his parental rights to my step dad. To me this equaled ‘I don’t want you you aren’t good enough’ So guys I dated all started pretty much straight away with the conversation : the guy says “I don’t see anything long term between us you aren’t for me.” Of course I thought I’ll prove you wrong you’ll want me by the time Im done with you. I have finally realised these guys are true their word and will never want me just like my dad didn’t.
    However changing the message to myself that I am worthy of better and do deserve a healthy relationship is extremely difficult but onwards and upwards. It is very true we need to deal with our past to make a better future for ourselves.

  • 12 webgurrl // May 10, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    I think that your upbringing undeniably affects the way you behave as an adult. I spent many years stuffing down and managing down my feelings about a family who allowed my parents to basically do every damaging thing in the book of what not do when you have children and divorce your spouse. I would be a fool not to acknowledge that their acrimony had not shaped my beliefs and outlook on dating and relationships. Identifying where the anger comes from helps to eliminate it. I always would be the last person to use childhood as an excuse or blame anyone for what choices I have made in partners, but when you don’t know why you are doing something, it’s worth a look , especially if your parents were toxic or unavailable. I didn’t ask to be here and certainly didn’t ask for a childhood from hell or a parent too into himself to show up and believes that throwing money at the problem makes up for being a slack.

    Someone has to take responsibility for that and I believe I deserved an explanation and an apology, which as an adult I demanded. After that, the burden is on me to make a change. My father still doesn’t show up when he says he will and is often MIA on planned visits, which in the past caused me to become so angry I have broken phones. My mom never let me or my brother get close to her and she lived and died that way. So,what do you do when a person won’t change? You love them for who they are and go on, I now no longer wait for him or any man. It’s them or you thats what it boils down to. Those who don’t get it, don’t participate, just don’t get any love from me.

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