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	<title>Comments on: Can you stay friends with Mr Unavailable&#8217;s &amp; Assclowns after you break up?- Part One</title>
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		<title>By: Liberty Belle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been broken up with the EUM for the past 4 months and initially wanted to friends. But the more I think of how he treated me the more I realise that he is not friend material. Why would I want to be friends with someone who hurt me repeatedly, never apologoised,  lied to me and reduced me from a vibrant, happy woman to a crying, made me an emotional wreck? 

I&#039;ve noticed that some women will write off their female friends for  indiscretions such as tardiness, bad mouthing, not repayaing loans or sleeping with their men. Yet when men do these same things, women want to be friends with them!

The man I used to date can keep on walking. He wasn&#039;t my friend during the relationship and he isn&#039;t my friend now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been broken up with the EUM for the past 4 months and initially wanted to friends. But the more I think of how he treated me the more I realise that he is not friend material. Why would I want to be friends with someone who hurt me repeatedly, never apologoised,  lied to me and reduced me from a vibrant, happy woman to a crying, made me an emotional wreck? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that some women will write off their female friends for  indiscretions such as tardiness, bad mouthing, not repayaing loans or sleeping with their men. Yet when men do these same things, women want to be friends with them!</p>
<p>The man I used to date can keep on walking. He wasn&#8217;t my friend during the relationship and he isn&#8217;t my friend now.</p>
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		<title>By: NML</title>
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		<dc:creator>NML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad K, that comment was brilliant! I nodded and nodded and nodded again! The stuffed doll para was class - thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad K, that comment was brilliant! I nodded and nodded and nodded again! The stuffed doll para was class &#8211; thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sevim,

You don&#039;t mention good friends that are women, or happily married.  If you are serious about wanting a safe and happy home - you need to pick a guy you can depend on.

Whether this guy is straight up - or the missing three weeks were a crime spree - doesn&#039;t matter.  You aren&#039;t making his life better, and you aren&#039;t enjoying the attempt.  That makes him sound unavailable, or at least uninterested.

A good mate-prospect must be trainable.  That is, when he recognizes a need to change, he adapts without fuss or bother.  Toilet needs cleaned?  He grabs a brush.  You are unhappy - his plans change to care for you.  You dare not manipulate your partner - that is going to boomerang and injure lots of people.  But someone that won&#039;t adapt, that won&#039;t consider your needs, that won&#039;t change when needed - they might as well be a stuffed doll left out on the sidewalk for all the good they will be, in the long run.

I imagine there are any number of ex cons that have turned their lives around.  But being an ex con is surely a strong signal that he has missed a lot of chances to change for the better.

Look for someone that respects themselves and you, that is honest in all things, honorable and loyal, and their actions agree with what they say - and always give the actions, deceits, inactions, more importance than their words.  You are looking for a mate and co-parent, not a perpetual dater.

Luck.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Brad K.â€™s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/2009/06/13/br-dignity-and-choosing-a-partner/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;br: Dignity and choosing a partner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sevim,</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t mention good friends that are women, or happily married.  If you are serious about wanting a safe and happy home &#8211; you need to pick a guy you can depend on.</p>
<p>Whether this guy is straight up &#8211; or the missing three weeks were a crime spree &#8211; doesn&#8217;t matter.  You aren&#8217;t making his life better, and you aren&#8217;t enjoying the attempt.  That makes him sound unavailable, or at least uninterested.</p>
<p>A good mate-prospect must be trainable.  That is, when he recognizes a need to change, he adapts without fuss or bother.  Toilet needs cleaned?  He grabs a brush.  You are unhappy &#8211; his plans change to care for you.  You dare not manipulate your partner &#8211; that is going to boomerang and injure lots of people.  But someone that won&#8217;t adapt, that won&#8217;t consider your needs, that won&#8217;t change when needed &#8211; they might as well be a stuffed doll left out on the sidewalk for all the good they will be, in the long run.</p>
<p>I imagine there are any number of ex cons that have turned their lives around.  But being an ex con is surely a strong signal that he has missed a lot of chances to change for the better.</p>
<p>Look for someone that respects themselves and you, that is honest in all things, honorable and loyal, and their actions agree with what they say &#8211; and always give the actions, deceits, inactions, more importance than their words.  You are looking for a mate and co-parent, not a perpetual dater.</p>
<p>Luck.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Brad K.â€™s last blog post..<a href="http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/2009/06/13/br-dignity-and-choosing-a-partner/" rel="nofollow">br: Dignity and choosing a partner</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Sevim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sevim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been &quot;seeing&quot; this guy for 10 months, he says that I&#039;m &quot;pretty much&quot; his girlfriend when I ask for commitment. I&#039;m a relationship person and I think I just realized that I have low self esteem, when I really thought I loved myself. I can&#039;t believe I let it get this far, I don&#039;t even have his mobile phone number at the moment. He&#039;s an ex con so he&#039;s constantly getting new numbers because he thinks that his phone is tapped. He&#039;s a real idiot. I&#039;ve been thinking of ending it for a while, but couldn&#039;t work up the strength probably because of my low self esteem and thinking that I need his validation because I feel so rejected. I&#039;ve tried to end it before but he didn&#039;t care. Then he cut me off for about three weeks without a word and then came back saying he missed me (he missed something) I felt used, but I had him back and we hugged for while. Anyway.. after reading this though, I really don&#039;t need a dickhead like him. There are a few guys that I know respect me, and say I&#039;m stupid for being with him when I complain, which is all I do. I&#039;m nineteen years old, I can do so much better. I shouldn&#039;t even be in a relationship, I should be living it up with my family and friends. I really needed to wake up, it makes so much more sense to me now. Thank you so much for your wise, brutally honest, but helpful words. I needed to hear it that way! A thousand thank yous! :) :) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been &#8220;seeing&#8221; this guy for 10 months, he says that I&#8217;m &#8220;pretty much&#8221; his girlfriend when I ask for commitment. I&#8217;m a relationship person and I think I just realized that I have low self esteem, when I really thought I loved myself. I can&#8217;t believe I let it get this far, I don&#8217;t even have his mobile phone number at the moment. He&#8217;s an ex con so he&#8217;s constantly getting new numbers because he thinks that his phone is tapped. He&#8217;s a real idiot. I&#8217;ve been thinking of ending it for a while, but couldn&#8217;t work up the strength probably because of my low self esteem and thinking that I need his validation because I feel so rejected. I&#8217;ve tried to end it before but he didn&#8217;t care. Then he cut me off for about three weeks without a word and then came back saying he missed me (he missed something) I felt used, but I had him back and we hugged for while. Anyway.. after reading this though, I really don&#8217;t need a dickhead like him. There are a few guys that I know respect me, and say I&#8217;m stupid for being with him when I complain, which is all I do. I&#8217;m nineteen years old, I can do so much better. I shouldn&#8217;t even be in a relationship, I should be living it up with my family and friends. I really needed to wake up, it makes so much more sense to me now. Thank you so much for your wise, brutally honest, but helpful words. I needed to hear it that way! A thousand thank yous! <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brad K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yyy,

The screaming, hostile language - the bridge burning - isn&#039;t polite.  Sorry, that sounds patronizing, and I don&#039;t mean it that way.  What I mean is, doing things like nagging, screaming, acting out - they change us.  It will be easier to flip out the next time - when we are hopefully with someone that we should have more respect for, more compassion for, someone we don&#039;t see as the enemy (of the moment).

Emotions are important survival tools, and creating a strong image in your mind of the end of the relationship can be very healthy.  It can let you easily distinguish between what you allowed &quot;before&quot;, and what you will not tolerate &quot;after.&quot;  

I can&#039;t really say whether the disrespect and dishonor of the passive-aggressive resistance, or the disrespect of the unbridled shouting spree would be &quot;much worse&quot; than the other.  What we do seems more normal and better justified that what others do to us.  Otherwise all the bozos in the world would wise up, understand there are better ways to live, and stop being a problem for themselves and others.  And we would make fewer problems for ourselves.

You don&#039;t demand that the clerk in the hardware store be honest all the time.  You check out what she/he recommends the best you can, you double check the checkout, you go on.  Your ex-bozo can be the same way.  I distinguish between trusted friends, and friendly acquaintances.  Some people I enjoy chatting with, or even helping - but don&#039;t intend to ever invite to my house, or recommend to anyone as a possible source of help.  This is life.

NML has written some powerful articles about the hazards of trying to stay friends, or even in contact, with an abusive, disrespectful ex.  For one thing, what created the problem in the first place is choosing to spend time with someone that destructive, and then choosing to stay rather than risk living without the familiar (evil) presence.  Staying in contact, especially the first few years after separating, tends to keep us in the same space we were when we accepted them - it keeps us from moving on and making a better life.  Somewhere in there many of us find some kind of balance between moving to South Dakota (remote and rural, but lovely several months of the year, real seasons, and most of the residents are solid and dependable, I like the area a lot), and keeping a spare set of sheets for nights he gets drunk and comes calling (Eww! Not my first recommendation! Or even my second)!.

I guess what I do recommend is to think about respect, about trust, and about honor in your life and the people you choose to live and work with.  That should make his shenanigans easier to recognize and avoid, and help keep lusty thoughts from distracting you with pretty faces and slick talk.

Blessed be!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Brad K.â€™s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/2009/04/29/mate-finances/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mate finances&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yyy,</p>
<p>The screaming, hostile language &#8211; the bridge burning &#8211; isn&#8217;t polite.  Sorry, that sounds patronizing, and I don&#8217;t mean it that way.  What I mean is, doing things like nagging, screaming, acting out &#8211; they change us.  It will be easier to flip out the next time &#8211; when we are hopefully with someone that we should have more respect for, more compassion for, someone we don&#8217;t see as the enemy (of the moment).</p>
<p>Emotions are important survival tools, and creating a strong image in your mind of the end of the relationship can be very healthy.  It can let you easily distinguish between what you allowed &#8220;before&#8221;, and what you will not tolerate &#8220;after.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t really say whether the disrespect and dishonor of the passive-aggressive resistance, or the disrespect of the unbridled shouting spree would be &#8220;much worse&#8221; than the other.  What we do seems more normal and better justified that what others do to us.  Otherwise all the bozos in the world would wise up, understand there are better ways to live, and stop being a problem for themselves and others.  And we would make fewer problems for ourselves.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t demand that the clerk in the hardware store be honest all the time.  You check out what she/he recommends the best you can, you double check the checkout, you go on.  Your ex-bozo can be the same way.  I distinguish between trusted friends, and friendly acquaintances.  Some people I enjoy chatting with, or even helping &#8211; but don&#8217;t intend to ever invite to my house, or recommend to anyone as a possible source of help.  This is life.</p>
<p>NML has written some powerful articles about the hazards of trying to stay friends, or even in contact, with an abusive, disrespectful ex.  For one thing, what created the problem in the first place is choosing to spend time with someone that destructive, and then choosing to stay rather than risk living without the familiar (evil) presence.  Staying in contact, especially the first few years after separating, tends to keep us in the same space we were when we accepted them &#8211; it keeps us from moving on and making a better life.  Somewhere in there many of us find some kind of balance between moving to South Dakota (remote and rural, but lovely several months of the year, real seasons, and most of the residents are solid and dependable, I like the area a lot), and keeping a spare set of sheets for nights he gets drunk and comes calling (Eww! Not my first recommendation! Or even my second)!.</p>
<p>I guess what I do recommend is to think about respect, about trust, and about honor in your life and the people you choose to live and work with.  That should make his shenanigans easier to recognize and avoid, and help keep lusty thoughts from distracting you with pretty faces and slick talk.</p>
<p>Blessed be!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Brad K.â€™s last blog post..<a href="http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/2009/04/29/mate-finances/" rel="nofollow">Mate finances</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: yyy</title>
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		<dc:creator>yyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My ex and I broke up about two months ago. I broke up with him, but in reality it was he who dumped me - by passive agressively doing everything possible to make me dump him. 

In any case, he fed me all of these bullshit lines. He told me he saw us being &quot;lifelong friends&quot; and that he couldn&#039;t imagine me not being in his life and blah blah blah. Well, I made it clear that if we were ever friends, it was going to be on my terms, when and if I wanted it to happen. 

So I took a monthlong hiatus, and then I sent him an e-mail telling him my doubts about the friendship - that I was unsure about being his friend because if he wasn&#039;t honest with me before, how could I count on his honesty in a friendship? And he knows for sure he can&#039;t count on me for sexual favors because I cut that off cold turkey the minute we broke up. 

He said we would be lifelong friends - but It turns out that when I wanted to talk to him as a friend - he wasn&#039;t there for my ego validation. The friendship only existed for him when I was there to validate his need for affection. What a &amp;*)*)( jerk. 

To be fair, I acted like a total psycho when I broke up with him - I told him to get the (*) out of my life, screamed at him, tortured him with guilt, etc. Part of me feels guilty and part of me feels like he had it coming. I really don&#039;t think screaming at someone is the worst thing you can do - acting like a passive agressive nutjob is much worse. (at least in my opinion).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My ex and I broke up about two months ago. I broke up with him, but in reality it was he who dumped me &#8211; by passive agressively doing everything possible to make me dump him. </p>
<p>In any case, he fed me all of these bullshit lines. He told me he saw us being &#8220;lifelong friends&#8221; and that he couldn&#8217;t imagine me not being in his life and blah blah blah. Well, I made it clear that if we were ever friends, it was going to be on my terms, when and if I wanted it to happen. </p>
<p>So I took a monthlong hiatus, and then I sent him an e-mail telling him my doubts about the friendship &#8211; that I was unsure about being his friend because if he wasn&#8217;t honest with me before, how could I count on his honesty in a friendship? And he knows for sure he can&#8217;t count on me for sexual favors because I cut that off cold turkey the minute we broke up. </p>
<p>He said we would be lifelong friends &#8211; but It turns out that when I wanted to talk to him as a friend &#8211; he wasn&#8217;t there for my ego validation. The friendship only existed for him when I was there to validate his need for affection. What a &amp;*)*)( jerk. </p>
<p>To be fair, I acted like a total psycho when I broke up with him &#8211; I told him to get the (*) out of my life, screamed at him, tortured him with guilt, etc. Part of me feels guilty and part of me feels like he had it coming. I really don&#8217;t think screaming at someone is the worst thing you can do &#8211; acting like a passive agressive nutjob is much worse. (at least in my opinion).</p>
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		<title>By: Res Judicata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Res Judicata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know. My logic (professional) side knows this stuff. My emotional side probably also knows this stuff, but is disregarding it. I can&#039;t say anything more than I have already said on all of these posts in this and other subject matter posts here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know. My logic (professional) side knows this stuff. My emotional side probably also knows this stuff, but is disregarding it. I can&#8217;t say anything more than I have already said on all of these posts in this and other subject matter posts here.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Res Judicata, 

When a guy tells you he is depressed or crazy - believe him.  Always.  And run.  He is laying the groundwork for never being responsible for or about anything.  If you don&#039;t run - you give him permission to misbehave, be irresponsible, and to act with disrespect.  As long as you stay, you continue to give permission - he won&#039;t change for you, not real change.  He can&#039;t change.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Brad K.â€™s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/2009/06/13/br-dignity-and-choosing-a-partner/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;br: Dignity and choosing a partner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Res Judicata, </p>
<p>When a guy tells you he is depressed or crazy &#8211; believe him.  Always.  And run.  He is laying the groundwork for never being responsible for or about anything.  If you don&#8217;t run &#8211; you give him permission to misbehave, be irresponsible, and to act with disrespect.  As long as you stay, you continue to give permission &#8211; he won&#8217;t change for you, not real change.  He can&#8217;t change.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Brad K.â€™s last blog post..<a href="http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/2009/06/13/br-dignity-and-choosing-a-partner/" rel="nofollow">br: Dignity and choosing a partner</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Res Judicata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Res Judicata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. When we first connected on the internet, we had an immediate connection by way of talking about his daughters, my dogs, his work, my work, our favorite movies, sports teams, etc.  When we met, we enjoyed friendship and intimacy -- it was perfect, harmonious, and two-way.   After about 2 1/2 months, these other family issues arose about which I have written much. Over time, he told me that he was &quot;stressed, felt guilty, was depressed, and crazy&quot; about these difficult situations.  I remained supportive, and saw him as frequently as his situation allowed.   I feel that by him telling me yesterday that, &quot;things were getting better for him&quot; this was his first entree into telling me that he was feeling better about him -- and possibly me and us.  I fully understand that these are less than optimal conditions, and will keep other options open.  Yet, a small part of me feels that there may be a small glimmer of hope out there.   I am not attracted to that many men -- I hate to say this -- but I feel bored by certain people, and sometimes would rather be with my dogs than on a bad date!  I never felt this way with him, even before the drama sucked me in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. When we first connected on the internet, we had an immediate connection by way of talking about his daughters, my dogs, his work, my work, our favorite movies, sports teams, etc.  When we met, we enjoyed friendship and intimacy &#8212; it was perfect, harmonious, and two-way.   After about 2 1/2 months, these other family issues arose about which I have written much. Over time, he told me that he was &#8220;stressed, felt guilty, was depressed, and crazy&#8221; about these difficult situations.  I remained supportive, and saw him as frequently as his situation allowed.   I feel that by him telling me yesterday that, &#8220;things were getting better for him&#8221; this was his first entree into telling me that he was feeling better about him &#8212; and possibly me and us.  I fully understand that these are less than optimal conditions, and will keep other options open.  Yet, a small part of me feels that there may be a small glimmer of hope out there.   I am not attracted to that many men &#8212; I hate to say this &#8212; but I feel bored by certain people, and sometimes would rather be with my dogs than on a bad date!  I never felt this way with him, even before the drama sucked me in.</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Res Judicata,

 If two people care about one another they will find a way to be together, they do not send  monthly  e-mails, they work at repairing the relationship. In his phone call did he talk about a reconciliation and say he wanted a committed relationship with you? 
 This man is incapable of a relationship and seems to be getting some sort of satisfaction by stringing you along, I mean don&#039;t you want more than this sporadic communication?   NML says, this type of communication is solely for an ego stroke, or even better sex w/o the commitment. 
Let me ask, when he initially pursued you, did he do it through a group monthly joke e-mail?  
Please go back to reading and posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Res Judicata,</p>
<p> If two people care about one another they will find a way to be together, they do not send  monthly  e-mails, they work at repairing the relationship. In his phone call did he talk about a reconciliation and say he wanted a committed relationship with you?<br />
 This man is incapable of a relationship and seems to be getting some sort of satisfaction by stringing you along, I mean don&#8217;t you want more than this sporadic communication?   NML says, this type of communication is solely for an ego stroke, or even better sex w/o the commitment.<br />
Let me ask, when he initially pursued you, did he do it through a group monthly joke e-mail?<br />
Please go back to reading and posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Res Judicata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Res Judicata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am here for a confession.  I had a relapse.  After 43 days of NC during which I did not respond to my XEUM&#039;s last e-mails/jokes, I responded.  I have been reading a book on communications between mates, wherein forgiveness plays a big role.  Sadly, one of my best friends passed away last weekend after an extended sickness.   I guess all of this has made me feel sad and vulnerable.  I had heard from another former friend today after an 18-month absence from my life.  At any rate, I thanked him for thinking of me, and making me smile.  He responded in a very heartfelt manner, and recalled my speaking about my friend in the past, and how much she meant to me.  He said that he seemed to be doing better. He asked about me and my pups.  It was an engaging, satisfying, and again heartfelt conversation.

After all is said and done, I still don&#039;t understand why he is not with me (and YES I have been reading these posts for weeks -- I swear I have) if we get along with, and understand, each other this well.  When he &quot;dips his toe in the water&quot; like this, is it an issue of him trying to control me, or does he care on some level, but is too clueless to show that on a consistent basis?  He was married for a long time; divorced now for 18 months, but has very little dating experience (even if he started dating someone after our separation on or about February).

Finally, why does this all have to be so difficult?  If two people care about one another, and the separator goes out of his way to keep in touch with the separatee, shouldn&#039;t this mean that they can put this back together again?

So much for the &quot;safe time&quot; which I was admonished to pursue about a week ago, somewhere above...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am here for a confession.  I had a relapse.  After 43 days of NC during which I did not respond to my XEUM&#8217;s last e-mails/jokes, I responded.  I have been reading a book on communications between mates, wherein forgiveness plays a big role.  Sadly, one of my best friends passed away last weekend after an extended sickness.   I guess all of this has made me feel sad and vulnerable.  I had heard from another former friend today after an 18-month absence from my life.  At any rate, I thanked him for thinking of me, and making me smile.  He responded in a very heartfelt manner, and recalled my speaking about my friend in the past, and how much she meant to me.  He said that he seemed to be doing better. He asked about me and my pups.  It was an engaging, satisfying, and again heartfelt conversation.</p>
<p>After all is said and done, I still don&#8217;t understand why he is not with me (and YES I have been reading these posts for weeks &#8212; I swear I have) if we get along with, and understand, each other this well.  When he &#8220;dips his toe in the water&#8221; like this, is it an issue of him trying to control me, or does he care on some level, but is too clueless to show that on a consistent basis?  He was married for a long time; divorced now for 18 months, but has very little dating experience (even if he started dating someone after our separation on or about February).</p>
<p>Finally, why does this all have to be so difficult?  If two people care about one another, and the separator goes out of his way to keep in touch with the separatee, shouldn&#8217;t this mean that they can put this back together again?</p>
<p>So much for the &#8220;safe time&#8221; which I was admonished to pursue about a week ago, somewhere above&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Satinne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Satinne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks all for your words, makes be realise that I did the right thing by pulling back and will definitely take time reading the articles on this site, so next time I will see the signs even earlier!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks all for your words, makes be realise that I did the right thing by pulling back and will definitely take time reading the articles on this site, so next time I will see the signs even earlier!</p>
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		<title>By: Kissie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kissie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO: Ms. Satinne, welcome to the site!  He&#039;s keeping his options open. Leave him alone and move on. You deserve someone who is available now.  Also, any man whom you have just met who is pressuing you for sex so soon in the relationship really only wants sex. 

To: Assclown Slayer (aka Karen):  loved your analogy and your post.  SOOO true!  It&#039;s about YOUR standards, not his, and is he meeting them.  But more importantly, is he willing to do the WORK to meet them.  As NML says, does he have both feet in the relatiinship?  Is he willing to work for your affection, love and attention?  I don&#039;t mean to say that you play hard to get or string him along like some little puppy dog.  But setting your standards and boundaries and standing by them.  Demanding that he treat you with consideration and respect because you are...simply because you are.  If he is a man of any true character or integrity he will see your worth and truly sweep you off your feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO: Ms. Satinne, welcome to the site!  He&#8217;s keeping his options open. Leave him alone and move on. You deserve someone who is available now.  Also, any man whom you have just met who is pressuing you for sex so soon in the relationship really only wants sex. </p>
<p>To: Assclown Slayer (aka Karen):  loved your analogy and your post.  SOOO true!  It&#8217;s about YOUR standards, not his, and is he meeting them.  But more importantly, is he willing to do the WORK to meet them.  As NML says, does he have both feet in the relatiinship?  Is he willing to work for your affection, love and attention?  I don&#8217;t mean to say that you play hard to get or string him along like some little puppy dog.  But setting your standards and boundaries and standing by them.  Demanding that he treat you with consideration and respect because you are&#8230;simply because you are.  If he is a man of any true character or integrity he will see your worth and truly sweep you off your feet.</p>
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		<title>By: aphrogirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>aphrogirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MIss Satinne

My advice also is to walk and don&#039;t look back. Yes, he could be ready in a few months or years, but also maybe never. If he used the words &quot; sweep you off your feet&quot;   I&#039;d be worried cause I like to keep my feet on the ground. Also the reason for wanting to know you... &quot;because you are gorgeous&quot;...were these his words? I want somebody who appreciates me for who I am, not mainly cause of how gorgeous I may or may not be.

Maybe I am tough but the knight in shining armor/ pretty princess thing always makes me feel like an object, and that makes me think of a self centered guy looking for a shallow relationship, not able to make an emotional commitment, not in touch with much but  acquiring the friend/ lover and that makes me think EUM and hoping EUM will turn into emo smart and here we are ad nauseum... I have no desire to go there again.

There are dozens of great posts on this site. Because you were questioning this I&#039;d spend some time here reading, if for no other reason than to get an idea of scenarios you never want to find yourself in, and how to spot them early on.

Good for you to step back when you did and question this.wise woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MIss Satinne</p>
<p>My advice also is to walk and don&#8217;t look back. Yes, he could be ready in a few months or years, but also maybe never. If he used the words &#8221; sweep you off your feet&#8221;   I&#8217;d be worried cause I like to keep my feet on the ground. Also the reason for wanting to know you&#8230; &#8220;because you are gorgeous&#8221;&#8230;were these his words? I want somebody who appreciates me for who I am, not mainly cause of how gorgeous I may or may not be.</p>
<p>Maybe I am tough but the knight in shining armor/ pretty princess thing always makes me feel like an object, and that makes me think of a self centered guy looking for a shallow relationship, not able to make an emotional commitment, not in touch with much but  acquiring the friend/ lover and that makes me think EUM and hoping EUM will turn into emo smart and here we are ad nauseum&#8230; I have no desire to go there again.</p>
<p>There are dozens of great posts on this site. Because you were questioning this I&#8217;d spend some time here reading, if for no other reason than to get an idea of scenarios you never want to find yourself in, and how to spot them early on.</p>
<p>Good for you to step back when you did and question this.wise woman.</p>
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		<title>By: truthhurts</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthhurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aphrogirl, I think you are a quick stuy compared to me! IÂ´ve spend more time getting over my EUM than I was with him! But I think that is because I am not so much getting over him as I am getting over my own insecurities and lack of selfworth. I still feel like running back to him when I feel low. 
We are working on creating better coping methods than running into the first pair of available arms (even if they are only available for a minute). That takes time. A lot of time in my case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aphrogirl, I think you are a quick stuy compared to me! IÂ´ve spend more time getting over my EUM than I was with him! But I think that is because I am not so much getting over him as I am getting over my own insecurities and lack of selfworth. I still feel like running back to him when I feel low.<br />
We are working on creating better coping methods than running into the first pair of available arms (even if they are only available for a minute). That takes time. A lot of time in my case.</p>
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