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	<title>Comments on: Mixing Up Optimism, Fear, and Denial in your Relationships &#8211; Just DO something</title>
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		<title>By: Tulipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tulipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 11:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I mentioned it on the other thread but after reading the above comments makes sense to mention it again &quot;Obesseive Love&quot; by Susan Foward and Craig Buck .. will reinforce a lot of what you said up above Finally about recreating childhood situations .. and it also talks about your situation Blackgnat it just reinforces all what NML is saying to us as well.. another resource if you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I mentioned it on the other thread but after reading the above comments makes sense to mention it again &#8220;Obesseive Love&#8221; by Susan Foward and Craig Buck .. will reinforce a lot of what you said up above Finally about recreating childhood situations .. and it also talks about your situation Blackgnat it just reinforces all what NML is saying to us as well.. another resource if you like.</p>
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		<title>By: finallyseenthelight</title>
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		<dc:creator>finallyseenthelight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Regina,.. You definitely had a tough one this NYE...but you made it through.  I went to a party at a friend&#039;s house.  I was thinking of the ex and I think he was with someone, which hurts me.  

BBP - some of this defies logic and it&#039;s just something we need to face like an alcoholic has to...one day at a time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Regina,.. You definitely had a tough one this NYE&#8230;but you made it through.  I went to a party at a friend&#8217;s house.  I was thinking of the ex and I think he was with someone, which hurts me.  </p>
<p>BBP &#8211; some of this defies logic and it&#8217;s just something we need to face like an alcoholic has to&#8230;one day at a time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BBP</title>
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		<dc:creator>BBP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blackgnat - my brother was hospitalized for psychosis/bi-polar when I was in my teens as well. I think you and I did both learn to mask the pain at an early age.
Update on my EUM, like Regina I had a brief setback. I saw him by accident waiting in line at the grocery store. Didn&#039;t know he was there until we were basically face to face. As soon as I figured out it was him I looked away and didn&#039;t look back. He chuckled ...just so that I could hear him...not unlike a serial killer. I obsessed about it for the rest of the night. Other than that, still no contact since August. Finally and Regina - he makes my skin crawl, but like you two I sickly still miss him at times. One day at a time, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blackgnat &#8211; my brother was hospitalized for psychosis/bi-polar when I was in my teens as well. I think you and I did both learn to mask the pain at an early age.<br />
Update on my EUM, like Regina I had a brief setback. I saw him by accident waiting in line at the grocery store. Didn&#8217;t know he was there until we were basically face to face. As soon as I figured out it was him I looked away and didn&#8217;t look back. He chuckled &#8230;just so that I could hear him&#8230;not unlike a serial killer. I obsessed about it for the rest of the night. Other than that, still no contact since August. Finally and Regina &#8211; he makes my skin crawl, but like you two I sickly still miss him at times. One day at a time, right?</p>
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		<title>By: blackgnat</title>
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		<dc:creator>blackgnat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regina, to your point about EU being transferable-that ALSO spooked me, but it is helpful too, because I really feel that I had a happy childhood with good parents.Having said that, my brother was diagnosed with schizophrenia when I was 14 and maybe that&#039;s when it started-I know I had to push an awful lot of feelings down and ignore stuff that was painful. 

Maybe that&#039;s why I have been so easily able to mask the pain my EUM has caused me, plus exhibited those symptoms myself. Maybe I was pretending it wasn&#039;t really happening, or I&#039;d &quot;get through it&quot;.

So thanks for that bit of info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regina, to your point about EU being transferable-that ALSO spooked me, but it is helpful too, because I really feel that I had a happy childhood with good parents.Having said that, my brother was diagnosed with schizophrenia when I was 14 and maybe that&#8217;s when it started-I know I had to push an awful lot of feelings down and ignore stuff that was painful. </p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s why I have been so easily able to mask the pain my EUM has caused me, plus exhibited those symptoms myself. Maybe I was pretending it wasn&#8217;t really happening, or I&#8217;d &#8220;get through it&#8221;.</p>
<p>So thanks for that bit of info.</p>
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		<title>By: ReginaToxicodendronDiversilobum</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReginaToxicodendronDiversilobum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Finally, I am a little over two months NC (Oct. 25th) of a six year relationship. New Years Eve was always very special for us...we didn&#039;t go to parties, we would go camping alone together. Really this holi was harder than Xmas or my birthday, which is between the two...I mean, if he hasn&#039;t come crawling back by now, and its the new year, well, it&#039;s really over right? Fresh start, baptised with tears.

What did you do for NYE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Finally, I am a little over two months NC (Oct. 25th) of a six year relationship. New Years Eve was always very special for us&#8230;we didn&#8217;t go to parties, we would go camping alone together. Really this holi was harder than Xmas or my birthday, which is between the two&#8230;I mean, if he hasn&#8217;t come crawling back by now, and its the new year, well, it&#8217;s really over right? Fresh start, baptised with tears.</p>
<p>What did you do for NYE?</p>
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		<title>By: finallyseenthelight</title>
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		<dc:creator>finallyseenthelight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regina, thanks for your support...it feels good to know there are other women out there going through the same thing.  It had been 3 months of NC and 4 months since we saw each other.  The relationship was 2 1/2 yrs (1 year straight and then the last 1 1/2 on and off, with me ending it when I couldn&#039;t stand the pain anymore).  I have the Bryn Collins book you referred to and read it over the summer...I&#039;ll have to reread it again...the sad part is that even though I know how bad he is for me...there&#039;s a part of me that misses him and the good times we had...I guess it&#039;ll take time to get back where I was.  
Regina, How long has NC been for you?

Are there any ladies who are from the NYC metropolitan area?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regina, thanks for your support&#8230;it feels good to know there are other women out there going through the same thing.  It had been 3 months of NC and 4 months since we saw each other.  The relationship was 2 1/2 yrs (1 year straight and then the last 1 1/2 on and off, with me ending it when I couldn&#8217;t stand the pain anymore).  I have the Bryn Collins book you referred to and read it over the summer&#8230;I&#8217;ll have to reread it again&#8230;the sad part is that even though I know how bad he is for me&#8230;there&#8217;s a part of me that misses him and the good times we had&#8230;I guess it&#8217;ll take time to get back where I was.<br />
Regina, How long has NC been for you?</p>
<p>Are there any ladies who are from the NYC metropolitan area?</p>
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		<title>By: ReginaToxicodendronDiversilobum</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReginaToxicodendronDiversilobum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, Finally, take care, how long had it been NC? 

I had a big setback when I saw him, just out of the corner of my eye at a show. It had been a month and a half of NC. I looked away real quick, and he must have left quickly too. But that glimpse set me back quite a ways. I would have a real hard time dealing with what you just had to, which was very conscious and purposeful on his part.

In _Emotional Unavailability: Recognizing It, Understanding It, and Avoiding Its Trap_ by Bryn Collins, she says one thing that really spooked me and agreed with stuff Natalie says about the EU thing being a socially transmissible phenomenon. To paraphrase, she says that women who get abused or traumatized in their adult life will quickly start displaying the symptoms of women who were traumatized/abused as children!  So not all of us can trace it to our childhood and upbringing. But I&#039;ll still be looking for this book.

New Years was also really hard for me, even without any contact, I can only dread how it must feel when you got that contact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, Finally, take care, how long had it been NC? </p>
<p>I had a big setback when I saw him, just out of the corner of my eye at a show. It had been a month and a half of NC. I looked away real quick, and he must have left quickly too. But that glimpse set me back quite a ways. I would have a real hard time dealing with what you just had to, which was very conscious and purposeful on his part.</p>
<p>In _Emotional Unavailability: Recognizing It, Understanding It, and Avoiding Its Trap_ by Bryn Collins, she says one thing that really spooked me and agreed with stuff Natalie says about the EU thing being a socially transmissible phenomenon. To paraphrase, she says that women who get abused or traumatized in their adult life will quickly start displaying the symptoms of women who were traumatized/abused as children!  So not all of us can trace it to our childhood and upbringing. But I&#8217;ll still be looking for this book.</p>
<p>New Years was also really hard for me, even without any contact, I can only dread how it must feel when you got that contact.</p>
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		<title>By: finallyseenthelight</title>
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		<dc:creator>finallyseenthelight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These relationships with EUMs are addictive.  They are not normal relationships for us.  I&#039;ve have researched and read about the topic and the pull these types of relationships have can be from &quot;attachment hunger (Howard Halpern&#039;s book),&quot; which is a primitive type of reaction due to our childhood and infancy needs which defies logic, common sense and what is best for us.  We are recreating with this person (EUM) what we did not get from our parent very early in life.  This EUM (addictive person) represents our chance at getting that need met that was not met in childhood.  So, ultimately, we fight so darn hard at it that it drives us literally crazy and we cannot understand our behavior.  We will sometimes conveniently forget their bad behavior when this drive takes over.  This is not an excuse for our behavior, but helps to understand why we behave the way that we do sometimes when we know something is bad for us.  

I&#039;ve been crazed since my EUM contacted me a few times under the guise of the holidays.  It stirred up this craziness in me that I thought I had totally under control.  His uncaring, selfish ways have not changed and I am seeing him in a clearer light with some distance...but the lenses get very foggy when there is contact.  Somehow all of my sense goes flying and I am weak when confronted by his voice or email.  I realize that NC is the way to go, but understanding what got me there in the first place and why is helpful too!  

To happy and healthy relationships only!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These relationships with EUMs are addictive.  They are not normal relationships for us.  I&#8217;ve have researched and read about the topic and the pull these types of relationships have can be from &#8220;attachment hunger (Howard Halpern&#8217;s book),&#8221; which is a primitive type of reaction due to our childhood and infancy needs which defies logic, common sense and what is best for us.  We are recreating with this person (EUM) what we did not get from our parent very early in life.  This EUM (addictive person) represents our chance at getting that need met that was not met in childhood.  So, ultimately, we fight so darn hard at it that it drives us literally crazy and we cannot understand our behavior.  We will sometimes conveniently forget their bad behavior when this drive takes over.  This is not an excuse for our behavior, but helps to understand why we behave the way that we do sometimes when we know something is bad for us.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been crazed since my EUM contacted me a few times under the guise of the holidays.  It stirred up this craziness in me that I thought I had totally under control.  His uncaring, selfish ways have not changed and I am seeing him in a clearer light with some distance&#8230;but the lenses get very foggy when there is contact.  Somehow all of my sense goes flying and I am weak when confronted by his voice or email.  I realize that NC is the way to go, but understanding what got me there in the first place and why is helpful too!  </p>
<p>To happy and healthy relationships only!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blackgnat,  When you have asthma, hay fever, pneumonia, etc. you understand that there are regular, everyday things that are problems for you.  You get the stupid-looking dust masks, you keep the Saline Nasal Mist in your pocket, in the car, and on your desk.  You consider your breathing capacity, the amount of exertion involved, the wind, the air temp and dust quality when you decide where to park your car - or whether to go shopping.

A casual parting of people dating is one thing.  When you are entangled with an EUM or other pathological relationship, you have hazards that wouldn&#039;t be threatening to someone else.  Yes.  Every tie, every aspect of relationship is going to keep re-opening the issues and emotions and ties from your heart to something hurtful.  Your first issue is to remove the hurt, and then to heal.

If your hosting deal included a domain name, then sign up for a domain account with one of the registrars (GoDaddy, TuCows, HostMonster, etc.) and request a transfer - you should still be listed as registrant, the owner of the domain.  Or ask your new host to help with domain name issues.

Remember to keep it really simple - if asked, yes, you are requesting the domain name be transferred/changed.  No one needs to know why.  Telling the story, keeping the drama alive, is another tie - get used to not telling, so the story can fade for you, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blackgnat,  When you have asthma, hay fever, pneumonia, etc. you understand that there are regular, everyday things that are problems for you.  You get the stupid-looking dust masks, you keep the Saline Nasal Mist in your pocket, in the car, and on your desk.  You consider your breathing capacity, the amount of exertion involved, the wind, the air temp and dust quality when you decide where to park your car &#8211; or whether to go shopping.</p>
<p>A casual parting of people dating is one thing.  When you are entangled with an EUM or other pathological relationship, you have hazards that wouldn&#8217;t be threatening to someone else.  Yes.  Every tie, every aspect of relationship is going to keep re-opening the issues and emotions and ties from your heart to something hurtful.  Your first issue is to remove the hurt, and then to heal.</p>
<p>If your hosting deal included a domain name, then sign up for a domain account with one of the registrars (GoDaddy, TuCows, HostMonster, etc.) and request a transfer &#8211; you should still be listed as registrant, the owner of the domain.  Or ask your new host to help with domain name issues.</p>
<p>Remember to keep it really simple &#8211; if asked, yes, you are requesting the domain name be transferred/changed.  No one needs to know why.  Telling the story, keeping the drama alive, is another tie &#8211; get used to not telling, so the story can fade for you, too.</p>
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		<title>By: blackgnat</title>
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		<dc:creator>blackgnat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad K., thanks for your reply. The site I have is wordpress, but he hosts it-I paid him $200 for 2 years. I think I have the terminology right about hosting.

Anyway, I have deleted my blog entries and added nothing more. I would like him to take it down altogether but that would mean contacting him.

I will keep working on this, but I also wonder if returning to the site is a way of keeping him alive in my mind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad K., thanks for your reply. The site I have is wordpress, but he hosts it-I paid him $200 for 2 years. I think I have the terminology right about hosting.</p>
<p>Anyway, I have deleted my blog entries and added nothing more. I would like him to take it down altogether but that would mean contacting him.</p>
<p>I will keep working on this, but I also wonder if returning to the site is a way of keeping him alive in my mind?</p>
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		<title>By: Gaynor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaynor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 06:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BK,

I wish you the best!  Trust me it will get much easier with time.

Happy New Year!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BK,</p>
<p>I wish you the best!  Trust me it will get much easier with time.</p>
<p>Happy New Year!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 05:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blackgnat, The project that he hosts for you on the internet - you have to break that connection.  Don&#039;t take ownership in, or use anything he is connected with.  You are letting technology bind you into a phantom relationship, it paralyzes you so you do not control your own life.

If the web is a mystery - take a class.  Sit down with a knowledgeable friend (other than this guy!) and take notes.  Or hit the library and grab a book or two on the Internet.

If you want a web presence, set one up on your own - blogger and google and wordpress.com are free, as are some others.  There are some awesome sites that help newcomers learn what to do and how to get things working well.  But you have to look, and read, and practice.  If he is big on facebook - avoid it.  Clean out your own page, and leave.  Protect yourself.

I am sure you know, that women and men communicate differently.  Tell a man a problem, and the typical response is to try to fix it.  Tell a woman a problem, and usually get emotional validation.

You are feeling hurt and frustrated because your problem isn&#039;t getting the emotional validation you would expect.  And you aren&#039;t ready to hear a guy with a solution.  Really.

One thing you might try - first is read NML&#039;s books - then print out this whole post and comments, and read it through.  Make notes, questions, etc.  Then read it all again, top to bottom, and see if any of the meanings change.  Put it away, and return the next day after a good night&#039;s sleep.  Then read again.  What might happen is that you start to see your posts as others do, and perhaps see a different meaning, different things meant, unsaid, or implied.  And perhaps more compassion than it feels like tonight.

Blessed be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blackgnat, The project that he hosts for you on the internet &#8211; you have to break that connection.  Don&#8217;t take ownership in, or use anything he is connected with.  You are letting technology bind you into a phantom relationship, it paralyzes you so you do not control your own life.</p>
<p>If the web is a mystery &#8211; take a class.  Sit down with a knowledgeable friend (other than this guy!) and take notes.  Or hit the library and grab a book or two on the Internet.</p>
<p>If you want a web presence, set one up on your own &#8211; blogger and google and wordpress.com are free, as are some others.  There are some awesome sites that help newcomers learn what to do and how to get things working well.  But you have to look, and read, and practice.  If he is big on facebook &#8211; avoid it.  Clean out your own page, and leave.  Protect yourself.</p>
<p>I am sure you know, that women and men communicate differently.  Tell a man a problem, and the typical response is to try to fix it.  Tell a woman a problem, and usually get emotional validation.</p>
<p>You are feeling hurt and frustrated because your problem isn&#8217;t getting the emotional validation you would expect.  And you aren&#8217;t ready to hear a guy with a solution.  Really.</p>
<p>One thing you might try &#8211; first is read NML&#8217;s books &#8211; then print out this whole post and comments, and read it through.  Make notes, questions, etc.  Then read it all again, top to bottom, and see if any of the meanings change.  Put it away, and return the next day after a good night&#8217;s sleep.  Then read again.  What might happen is that you start to see your posts as others do, and perhaps see a different meaning, different things meant, unsaid, or implied.  And perhaps more compassion than it feels like tonight.</p>
<p>Blessed be.</p>
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		<title>By: Astelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BK, 2009 will be a great year!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BK, 2009 will be a great year!! <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: blackgnat</title>
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		<dc:creator>blackgnat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaynor I also respect the advice, but I have sensed that you are expecting my head to be on too sensibly at this stage of my game. 

Your comment &quot;Yes, but there&#039;s giving updates and giving &quot;updates&quot; ,&quot; was something I thought was unnecessary for YOU to say. Unlike other posters, you haven&#039;t given me any credit for not initiating or responding to contact. The message I get from you is that I should be getting on with this all much quicker. After eight years, it&#039;s not that easy, though I am trying. If I could have just been able to turn it off that easily I wouldn&#039;t have needed this site.

I understand what has to be done and am NOT looking for sympathy, again just some pats on the back, which I was delighted to get from other posters. It made me feel stronger and able to do more of the same. I&#039;m absolutely certain that I have been a complete idiot and doormat and need to get over it.

I am feeling pretty depressed and fragile right now, but I do not want to cause any bad feelings here.

Gaynor and Astelle, please accept my apologies for the comments I made that offended you. I&#039;m sure I took them too personally, but for the nth time, this is something I only started TRULY facing 10 days or so, so the best thing for me is probably to refrain from posting until I have done more reading of NML&#039;s posts and can contain my emotions a little better.

Happy New Year to All.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaynor I also respect the advice, but I have sensed that you are expecting my head to be on too sensibly at this stage of my game. </p>
<p>Your comment &#8220;Yes, but there&#8217;s giving updates and giving &#8220;updates&#8221; ,&#8221; was something I thought was unnecessary for YOU to say. Unlike other posters, you haven&#8217;t given me any credit for not initiating or responding to contact. The message I get from you is that I should be getting on with this all much quicker. After eight years, it&#8217;s not that easy, though I am trying. If I could have just been able to turn it off that easily I wouldn&#8217;t have needed this site.</p>
<p>I understand what has to be done and am NOT looking for sympathy, again just some pats on the back, which I was delighted to get from other posters. It made me feel stronger and able to do more of the same. I&#8217;m absolutely certain that I have been a complete idiot and doormat and need to get over it.</p>
<p>I am feeling pretty depressed and fragile right now, but I do not want to cause any bad feelings here.</p>
<p>Gaynor and Astelle, please accept my apologies for the comments I made that offended you. I&#8217;m sure I took them too personally, but for the nth time, this is something I only started TRULY facing 10 days or so, so the best thing for me is probably to refrain from posting until I have done more reading of NML&#8217;s posts and can contain my emotions a little better.</p>
<p>Happy New Year to All.</p>
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		<title>By: Astelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BK, you are taking my comments way to personally. I never said that you are doing something wrong and I also understand that everybody will get over the heartbreak at their own pace. Eventually everything will be O.K.. Keep your chin up and Happy New year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BK, you are taking my comments way to personally. I never said that you are doing something wrong and I also understand that everybody will get over the heartbreak at their own pace. Eventually everything will be O.K.. Keep your chin up and Happy New year!</p>
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