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		<title>By: The truth about Nice Guys &#124; Baggage Reclaim</title>
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		<dc:creator>The truth about Nice Guys &#124; Baggage Reclaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 19:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does everybodey generalize this enless pointless debate!  An entire planets worth of indiviuals and sitcuations cannot be pushed into neat little boxes, as though everything and everyone is without context and meaning!  Certain sernarios our simply more famous because of the drama to be played with by socitey and the media.  This stuff talks as though nobodey has been living happly in realationships for years.  All these so called dos and don&#039;ts game playing is such demoralizing bullshit!  If all that crap wasn&#039;t pure myth this clearly crazy old world wouldn&#039;t still be a turning, simple as.  It suggests we are all nothing but superficial steriotypes looking for impossible paper ideals that don&#039;t exist and are ultimately unpleasable.    

We are afterall all different for a reason.  We can&#039;t ballence each other out otherwise.   People just want different things at different stages of life.  I think theres a reason this stuff isn&#039;t officialy teached because you can&#039;t control everything.  Nature is not a foe to be outwitted or beaten and certainly not controled.  It&#039;s an unstoppable force and it will remind you of that in kind.  You&#039;ve got to play to your strenghs and never stop hopeing for the best.  It&#039;s a numbers game for a reason.  Life dosen&#039;t deal in garentees.  Being yourself really just seems to mean being the way you are around people your comfortable with and most inportantly if your genuien, honest and unapologetic for your good nature then your not coming from any place of weakness.  

I know of plenty of couples in my circles where none of these men are exactly what you&#039;d call the typical ideals and it was never a bloody issue to begin with.  They&#039;re happy and never feel bogged down by all this mythical dateing games horse manure.    It just dosen&#039;t exist in their worlds, sure things won&#039;t be perfect but the kind of things these so called experts harp on about clearly is greatly exaggerated in their cases.  

You see I dont feel anyone has the right to judge some as less than a man or whatever because they don&#039;t fit a suposed male ideal.  Theres a little thing called middle ground and I believe you can be strong and confidant in your own way, that strengh ain&#039;t dictated to by who&#039;s the most dominant or charismatic person in the room.  It&#039;s not about who&#039;s tougher, smarter, funnier, richer, handsomer etc.  My opinion of human nature has to be higher than that!  I have to believe that a person who believes in something, anything is worth more than that.  And those who stay true to that even when it&#039;s not always the popular thing will come through by the numbers game in the end.  If a &#039;Nice Guy&#039; dosen&#039;t sell himself as such and truelly lives to strong aspirations and not to get women or for that shiney pot of gold at the end of the rainbow but because he genuienly believes in a better tomorrow and doing the right thing because its right, if he&#039;s that dedicated etc then he won&#039;t be the things others are painted as and a lot of people are.  Also nobodey can be anyone&#039;s true one priority, a priority yes but shock horror life comes with other more inportant things aswell like responsiblitys that don&#039;t revolve around one person and consequences to every action, something the fantasy ideals and movie characters etc seem to live in a world without.  Just because what someone feels is important to them might be different to someone else&#039;s dosen&#039;t mean anyone is right or wrong.  I appeal to people, if you want different things, then don&#039;t torturer yourselves, move on and find someone who will click with what you need.  The numbers game issue pays off even better when you learn to look for places that better fit who your looking for.  Women won&#039;t choose a certain type in the first place if they wanted someone who is the opposit.  When something dosen&#039;t work out its for all sorts of reasons, it takes two, often lack of comunication or needing different things from what they needed when they met.    People have their reasons and sure there not always pleasant but never should you let anyone tell you it&#039;s some sort of stupid question of &#039;nice guys vs jerks&#039;          

I think the &#039;experts&#039; admitably are quite clever in taking the grains of half truths and mixing them together with that little negative voice inside are heads, which while feels real enough, deep down we know it lies with the truth and they use that to exploite and manipulate for personal gain.  Course in othercases they probably just enjoy the sound of their own voice and taking advantage of the loney and troubled makes themselves feel better and inportant.   Their view is so narrow that they fail to see how one extream ain&#039;t the answer to another.  Their auidence don&#039;t need to be molly coddled or bullyed, heathan forbid they actually level with them instead of owerwhelming them with enough negative questioning of appearances to force them into a corner of intense frustrastion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does everybodey generalize this enless pointless debate!  An entire planets worth of indiviuals and sitcuations cannot be pushed into neat little boxes, as though everything and everyone is without context and meaning!  Certain sernarios our simply more famous because of the drama to be played with by socitey and the media.  This stuff talks as though nobodey has been living happly in realationships for years.  All these so called dos and don&#8217;ts game playing is such demoralizing bullshit!  If all that crap wasn&#8217;t pure myth this clearly crazy old world wouldn&#8217;t still be a turning, simple as.  It suggests we are all nothing but superficial steriotypes looking for impossible paper ideals that don&#8217;t exist and are ultimately unpleasable.    </p>
<p>We are afterall all different for a reason.  We can&#8217;t ballence each other out otherwise.   People just want different things at different stages of life.  I think theres a reason this stuff isn&#8217;t officialy teached because you can&#8217;t control everything.  Nature is not a foe to be outwitted or beaten and certainly not controled.  It&#8217;s an unstoppable force and it will remind you of that in kind.  You&#8217;ve got to play to your strenghs and never stop hopeing for the best.  It&#8217;s a numbers game for a reason.  Life dosen&#8217;t deal in garentees.  Being yourself really just seems to mean being the way you are around people your comfortable with and most inportantly if your genuien, honest and unapologetic for your good nature then your not coming from any place of weakness.  </p>
<p>I know of plenty of couples in my circles where none of these men are exactly what you&#8217;d call the typical ideals and it was never a bloody issue to begin with.  They&#8217;re happy and never feel bogged down by all this mythical dateing games horse manure.    It just dosen&#8217;t exist in their worlds, sure things won&#8217;t be perfect but the kind of things these so called experts harp on about clearly is greatly exaggerated in their cases.  </p>
<p>You see I dont feel anyone has the right to judge some as less than a man or whatever because they don&#8217;t fit a suposed male ideal.  Theres a little thing called middle ground and I believe you can be strong and confidant in your own way, that strengh ain&#8217;t dictated to by who&#8217;s the most dominant or charismatic person in the room.  It&#8217;s not about who&#8217;s tougher, smarter, funnier, richer, handsomer etc.  My opinion of human nature has to be higher than that!  I have to believe that a person who believes in something, anything is worth more than that.  And those who stay true to that even when it&#8217;s not always the popular thing will come through by the numbers game in the end.  If a &#8216;Nice Guy&#8217; dosen&#8217;t sell himself as such and truelly lives to strong aspirations and not to get women or for that shiney pot of gold at the end of the rainbow but because he genuienly believes in a better tomorrow and doing the right thing because its right, if he&#8217;s that dedicated etc then he won&#8217;t be the things others are painted as and a lot of people are.  Also nobodey can be anyone&#8217;s true one priority, a priority yes but shock horror life comes with other more inportant things aswell like responsiblitys that don&#8217;t revolve around one person and consequences to every action, something the fantasy ideals and movie characters etc seem to live in a world without.  Just because what someone feels is important to them might be different to someone else&#8217;s dosen&#8217;t mean anyone is right or wrong.  I appeal to people, if you want different things, then don&#8217;t torturer yourselves, move on and find someone who will click with what you need.  The numbers game issue pays off even better when you learn to look for places that better fit who your looking for.  Women won&#8217;t choose a certain type in the first place if they wanted someone who is the opposit.  When something dosen&#8217;t work out its for all sorts of reasons, it takes two, often lack of comunication or needing different things from what they needed when they met.    People have their reasons and sure there not always pleasant but never should you let anyone tell you it&#8217;s some sort of stupid question of &#8216;nice guys vs jerks&#8217;          </p>
<p>I think the &#8216;experts&#8217; admitably are quite clever in taking the grains of half truths and mixing them together with that little negative voice inside are heads, which while feels real enough, deep down we know it lies with the truth and they use that to exploite and manipulate for personal gain.  Course in othercases they probably just enjoy the sound of their own voice and taking advantage of the loney and troubled makes themselves feel better and inportant.   Their view is so narrow that they fail to see how one extream ain&#8217;t the answer to another.  Their auidence don&#8217;t need to be molly coddled or bullyed, heathan forbid they actually level with them instead of owerwhelming them with enough negative questioning of appearances to force them into a corner of intense frustrastion.</p>
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		<title>By: handyman services</title>
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		<dc:creator>handyman services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/mr-too-nice-to-date-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-74632</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>got to admit this does (unfortunatly) sound alot like me, but I atleast help make people feel good about themselves...I hope. I just never ever feel sceure since school and feeling alone, though I do many many jokes. just have to remember and find when to not cross a line, but it&#039;s hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>got to admit this does (unfortunatly) sound alot like me, but I atleast help make people feel good about themselves&#8230;I hope. I just never ever feel sceure since school and feeling alone, though I do many many jokes. just have to remember and find when to not cross a line, but it&#8217;s hard.</p>
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		<title>By: NML</title>
		<link>http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/mr-too-nice-to-date-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-2140</link>
		<dc:creator>NML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 09:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fletcher - Absolutely - women need to learn how to like a nice guy instead of chasing fools.
Damnitanyway - Oh dear... Well I hope I have helped :-)
Constant Dater - You are SO right! The ones who doth protest too much use &#039;nice&#039; as something to justify extremes of misogynistic behaviour. &#039;Oh..women don&#039;t like me because I&#039;m nice. I hate them all. That&#039;s it, I&#039;m only sleeping with hookers from now on...&#039;
M - Thanks for the tip off. I shall definitely check it out. 
Mez - Thank you :-)
Andrew - Mr Too Nice To Date Twice does scream a life of not feeling secure that he&#039;s got your back. I think women think they would carry *him* over the threshold ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fletcher &#8211; Absolutely &#8211; women need to learn how to like a nice guy instead of chasing fools.<br />
Damnitanyway &#8211; Oh dear&#8230; Well I hope I have helped <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Constant Dater &#8211; You are SO right! The ones who doth protest too much use &#8216;nice&#8217; as something to justify extremes of misogynistic behaviour. &#8216;Oh..women don&#8217;t like me because I&#8217;m nice. I hate them all. That&#8217;s it, I&#8217;m only sleeping with hookers from now on&#8230;&#8217;<br />
M &#8211; Thanks for the tip off. I shall definitely check it out.<br />
Mez &#8211; Thank you <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Andrew &#8211; Mr Too Nice To Date Twice does scream a life of not feeling secure that he&#8217;s got your back. I think women think they would carry *him* over the threshold <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew McAllister Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew McAllister Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there is much mystery at all as to why &quot;Mr. Drippy, Please push me around&quot; doesn&#039;t get a second date. Most women seem to want someone strong in their life, someone with the potential to look after them if it came to that. And I see this even with assertive, career-oriented gals - they still want a strong guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there is much mystery at all as to why &#8220;Mr. Drippy, Please push me around&#8221; doesn&#8217;t get a second date. Most women seem to want someone strong in their life, someone with the potential to look after them if it came to that. And I see this even with assertive, career-oriented gals &#8211; they still want a strong guy.</p>
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		<title>By: mez</title>
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		<dc:creator>mez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you hit some very good points here. very keen and observant. there&#039;s a site and book: nomoremrniceguy.com which goes into a lot of depth about this.

also, NML, you&#039;re pretty hot. let&#039;s go out when i come over to the UK ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you hit some very good points here. very keen and observant. there&#8217;s a site and book: nomoremrniceguy.com which goes into a lot of depth about this.</p>
<p>also, NML, you&#8217;re pretty hot. let&#8217;s go out when i come over to the UK <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Constant Dater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constant Dater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also a slew of so-called &quot;nice&quot; guys who are in actuality quite misogynistic. 

Also, who wants to be &quot;nice&quot;? It&#039;s a useless flaccid word that basically means &quot;not offensive.&quot; (I guess hence the pushover tendencies.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also a slew of so-called &#8220;nice&#8221; guys who are in actuality quite misogynistic. </p>
<p>Also, who wants to be &#8220;nice&#8221;? It&#8217;s a useless flaccid word that basically means &#8220;not offensive.&#8221; (I guess hence the pushover tendencies.)</p>
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		<title>By: damnitanyway</title>
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		<dc:creator>damnitanyway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>holy shit.
you just described me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy shit.<br />
you just described me</p>
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		<title>By: Fletcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to the last &#039;graf. Nice to see the onus isn&#039;t totally put on the guy! Keep up the great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to the last &#8216;graf. Nice to see the onus isn&#8217;t totally put on the guy! Keep up the great work!</p>
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