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		<title>By: jaded</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was also on the receiving end of such a person - how I wish I had run, run far away - he was like a magnet and the attraction was so damn strong. I should have listened to my inner instincts. I have no contact with him now but I still have the nightmares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was also on the receiving end of such a person &#8211; how I wish I had run, run far away &#8211; he was like a magnet and the attraction was so damn strong. I should have listened to my inner instincts. I have no contact with him now but I still have the nightmares.</p>
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		<title>By: annied</title>
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		<dc:creator>annied</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please get away from him! You deserve so much better and it would not even take much to be better than that disgusting piece of crap!

Run, girl, run!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please get away from him! You deserve so much better and it would not even take much to be better than that disgusting piece of crap!</p>
<p>Run, girl, run!</p>
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		<title>By: Loving Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loving Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denise, You got wonderful and very accurate advice and feedback here. The answers were all there.

I hope that you leave him, do the NO CONTACT thing, and please read NML&#039;s e-book about Mr. Unavailable and The Fallback Girl...

((HUGS))

Get rid of the assclown - and your friends who aren&#039;t friends. 

Start fresh, looking at creating better/more nuturing self-esteem for yourself while gradually building healthy boundaries...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denise, You got wonderful and very accurate advice and feedback here. The answers were all there.</p>
<p>I hope that you leave him, do the NO CONTACT thing, and please read NML&#8217;s e-book about Mr. Unavailable and The Fallback Girl&#8230;</p>
<p>((HUGS))</p>
<p>Get rid of the assclown &#8211; and your friends who aren&#8217;t friends. </p>
<p>Start fresh, looking at creating better/more nuturing self-esteem for yourself while gradually building healthy boundaries&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brad K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denise, you ask, &quot;He flirts with every girl he sees, even my sons girlfriends and they fall for it &amp; flirt back behind my sons back &amp; flirt back. What I really donâ€™t understand is why people/friends donâ€™t stand by me?&quot;

That one is easy.  You are giving your permission for him to mess around, and for other women to mess around with him.

You stay where you are - with him, with the messing around, with the friends messing with him, with all of it. Silence implies consent - and your actions contradict anything you might think of to say.

That is why he continues - because you are letting him.  You are giving him permission.  He thinks he is being cute when he is disrespectful.  When he spends time flirting with others, you *have* to believe that he is having sex partners that you aren&#039;t even aware of.  Ask yourself - how many women do you really want to sleep with, second hand?  When you don&#039;t know who they are, how can you be sure about diseases, etc.?

Then the one that bothers me.  He flirts with your son&#039;s dates.  There is nothing, nothing at all, that you can ever say to anyone that will influence your son&#039;s treatment of women, of what he thinks as healthy behavior, as the mere fact that you stay with this horrible man.  This isn&#039;t just about you - you have a mother&#039;s responsibility to manage the environment you raise your son in.  And allowing someone as disrespectful and antisocial as this to be known to your son, let alone to let your son know you know about his behavior, you teach your son to disrespect women by your acceptance and by this guy&#039;s example.  That is a terribly effective way to train your son to abuse and disrespect women throughout his life.  Anything you say about this to your son will look like deceit and deceptions (when you want to set an example of honesty and respect) because you are saying one thing and doing something very different.

You have to leave this guy.  He is destroying your ability to parent your son, just by being around.  By being there he poisons your values and choices and what friendship means to you.  Because he is there, you are tied to your past, and to his past, and to every single one of his sexual adventures - which you can be sure are happening, even when you know for dead-certain-sure that you cannot believe word One out of his mouth.

How to leave?  Please start with the nearest battered women&#039;s shelter.  You qualify.  You may not have the bruises and broken bones and gashes that others have, but you suffer from his disrespect, you don&#039;t see a way to escape (or fully understand the need to get him out of your life), and you need personal guidance on safely and permanently getting rid of this guy.

Bless you for reaching out and asking for help.  NML&#039;s No Contact Rules are a great start.  But the first step has to be to answer your question of what to do.  And that cannot begin until you understand the damage this guy does to everyone around him, and the damage you do to others when you stay with him.  After you understand that, then leaving (should!) be the next step, and you will be able to begin planning out how to protect yourself from him, and also from any attempt he makes to contact you.

Please keep in touch with us.  Writing things as they happen, questions that occur to you, decisions that you make - these all become more real when written.  A diary, comments to this post, a journal or blog - you can help yourself by recording what you go through.  And seek out an experienced friend or counselor - pastor, women&#039;s shelter, counseling service - but, please, not any friends that are already messing around with this guy.

NML and the other commenters here have expressed a lot to think about, and I have said some pretty strong things.  We really want things to be better for you, this is one way of saying, &quot;I love you&quot; - by saying what we believe to be true and helpful.  This is pretty cold comfort, hm?  But trust me - we mean you only good things.

Blessed be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denise, you ask, &#8220;He flirts with every girl he sees, even my sons girlfriends and they fall for it &amp; flirt back behind my sons back &amp; flirt back. What I really donâ€™t understand is why people/friends donâ€™t stand by me?&#8221;</p>
<p>That one is easy.  You are giving your permission for him to mess around, and for other women to mess around with him.</p>
<p>You stay where you are &#8211; with him, with the messing around, with the friends messing with him, with all of it. Silence implies consent &#8211; and your actions contradict anything you might think of to say.</p>
<p>That is why he continues &#8211; because you are letting him.  You are giving him permission.  He thinks he is being cute when he is disrespectful.  When he spends time flirting with others, you *have* to believe that he is having sex partners that you aren&#8217;t even aware of.  Ask yourself &#8211; how many women do you really want to sleep with, second hand?  When you don&#8217;t know who they are, how can you be sure about diseases, etc.?</p>
<p>Then the one that bothers me.  He flirts with your son&#8217;s dates.  There is nothing, nothing at all, that you can ever say to anyone that will influence your son&#8217;s treatment of women, of what he thinks as healthy behavior, as the mere fact that you stay with this horrible man.  This isn&#8217;t just about you &#8211; you have a mother&#8217;s responsibility to manage the environment you raise your son in.  And allowing someone as disrespectful and antisocial as this to be known to your son, let alone to let your son know you know about his behavior, you teach your son to disrespect women by your acceptance and by this guy&#8217;s example.  That is a terribly effective way to train your son to abuse and disrespect women throughout his life.  Anything you say about this to your son will look like deceit and deceptions (when you want to set an example of honesty and respect) because you are saying one thing and doing something very different.</p>
<p>You have to leave this guy.  He is destroying your ability to parent your son, just by being around.  By being there he poisons your values and choices and what friendship means to you.  Because he is there, you are tied to your past, and to his past, and to every single one of his sexual adventures &#8211; which you can be sure are happening, even when you know for dead-certain-sure that you cannot believe word One out of his mouth.</p>
<p>How to leave?  Please start with the nearest battered women&#8217;s shelter.  You qualify.  You may not have the bruises and broken bones and gashes that others have, but you suffer from his disrespect, you don&#8217;t see a way to escape (or fully understand the need to get him out of your life), and you need personal guidance on safely and permanently getting rid of this guy.</p>
<p>Bless you for reaching out and asking for help.  NML&#8217;s No Contact Rules are a great start.  But the first step has to be to answer your question of what to do.  And that cannot begin until you understand the damage this guy does to everyone around him, and the damage you do to others when you stay with him.  After you understand that, then leaving (should!) be the next step, and you will be able to begin planning out how to protect yourself from him, and also from any attempt he makes to contact you.</p>
<p>Please keep in touch with us.  Writing things as they happen, questions that occur to you, decisions that you make &#8211; these all become more real when written.  A diary, comments to this post, a journal or blog &#8211; you can help yourself by recording what you go through.  And seek out an experienced friend or counselor &#8211; pastor, women&#8217;s shelter, counseling service &#8211; but, please, not any friends that are already messing around with this guy.</p>
<p>NML and the other commenters here have expressed a lot to think about, and I have said some pretty strong things.  We really want things to be better for you, this is one way of saying, &#8220;I love you&#8221; &#8211; by saying what we believe to be true and helpful.  This is pretty cold comfort, hm?  But trust me &#8211; we mean you only good things.</p>
<p>Blessed be.</p>
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		<title>By: lisaq</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa! Run, don&#039;t walk. Get the hell away from this loser and perhaps even your so-called friends and work on you! I can&#039;t imagine how horrible you must feel about yourself to have taken this assclown back after he fingered your friend.

NML is right. You have got to find the value in yourself and start loving yourself...sooner rather than later. Sweetie, you&#039;re better than this douchebag...you&#039;ve just got to believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa! Run, don&#8217;t walk. Get the hell away from this loser and perhaps even your so-called friends and work on you! I can&#8217;t imagine how horrible you must feel about yourself to have taken this assclown back after he fingered your friend.</p>
<p>NML is right. You have got to find the value in yourself and start loving yourself&#8230;sooner rather than later. Sweetie, you&#8217;re better than this douchebag&#8230;you&#8217;ve just got to believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DENISE-you need to GET AWAY FROM HIM!! Read my post-NML was awsome and totally supported what I suspected all along! My story was similar-It&#039;s the one that says &quot;How do I forgive my Narcissist ex and friend for the Private Dance&quot; or something like that-I&#039;m telling you, you need to do this for yourself-get away from this asshole!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DENISE-you need to GET AWAY FROM HIM!! Read my post-NML was awsome and totally supported what I suspected all along! My story was similar-It&#8217;s the one that says &#8220;How do I forgive my Narcissist ex and friend for the Private Dance&#8221; or something like that-I&#8217;m telling you, you need to do this for yourself-get away from this asshole!!!</p>
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		<title>By: FinallyOverIt</title>
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		<dc:creator>FinallyOverIt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is unbelievable!  It appears as though there is NOT ONE ounce of personal values, morals or integrity in this guy, and yet she is conflicted about dumping his @ss?  She is taking constant daily verbal abuse from him, and in my opinion, this mentality is no different than a woman who is being physically abused by her partner.  Her lousy &quot;so called&quot; friends aside, she seriously needs to address her issues with a counselor (good call, NML) regarding her self-esteem and lack of self-love.  Oh, and if I were her I would dump the friends, too.  They sound horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is unbelievable!  It appears as though there is NOT ONE ounce of personal values, morals or integrity in this guy, and yet she is conflicted about dumping his @ss?  She is taking constant daily verbal abuse from him, and in my opinion, this mentality is no different than a woman who is being physically abused by her partner.  Her lousy &#8220;so called&#8221; friends aside, she seriously needs to address her issues with a counselor (good call, NML) regarding her self-esteem and lack of self-love.  Oh, and if I were her I would dump the friends, too.  They sound horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: unknowndiva</title>
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		<dc:creator>unknowndiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes this is a crazy situation and she should get out immediately! we women HAVE to do better! we HAVE to show that we are worth more than just what someone wants to dish out to us. we HAVE to stand up for ourselves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes this is a crazy situation and she should get out immediately! we women HAVE to do better! we HAVE to show that we are worth more than just what someone wants to dish out to us. we HAVE to stand up for ourselves!</p>
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		<title>By: miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nml - i love you.  i&#039;m so happy that i came across this site.  keep it up lady!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nml &#8211; i love you.  i&#8217;m so happy that i came across this site.  keep it up lady!</p>
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