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		<title>By: Argentina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Argentina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! As I woman I say yes! If not so, men can quickly and easily get used to having someone pay for them, and soon you&#039;ll be man in a relationship, that&#039;s not what a girl wants. I have expirience with paying everything for men, and I say it is the worst thing to happen! It made me feel sad, poor, tired, and the most importantly: not taken care of! It kills a woman in me. None of my girlfriends pays when with boyfriend, why should I? It is just the question of sexes, women like to feel taken care of, and men like to feel like a strong warrior that takes care of his little princess. If not, they are homosexual?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! As I woman I say yes! If not so, men can quickly and easily get used to having someone pay for them, and soon you&#8217;ll be man in a relationship, that&#8217;s not what a girl wants. I have expirience with paying everything for men, and I say it is the worst thing to happen! It made me feel sad, poor, tired, and the most importantly: not taken care of! It kills a woman in me. None of my girlfriends pays when with boyfriend, why should I? It is just the question of sexes, women like to feel taken care of, and men like to feel like a strong warrior that takes care of his little princess. If not, they are homosexual?</p>
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		<title>By: Used</title>
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		<dc:creator>Used</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is that supposed to mean?

Were you someone who got the run-around and/or &quot;taken&quot; in a serious relationship, marriage, or divorce?  That&#039;s what it sounds like to me!  Well, buddy, remember that you CHOSE the woman who messed with your head!  You didn&#039;t choose the lady, the woman with self-respect, the woman with class!

The bottom line is that the &quot;men&quot; of the world are the ones who say, &quot;will you marry me?&quot; or &quot;yes, let&#039;s be exclusive&quot; or give off the hints that they are or are not up for something serious WITH THE WOMAN THEY CONSCIOUSLY OR UNCONSCIOUSLY CHOOSE TO BE THE ONE, in a marriage or a serious relationship.  

Regardless, because it is a fact of life that the man chooses as above, the man &quot;gets&quot; to pay--even wants to pay.  

And, if he chooses wrong, if he chooses a bitch or money-spender or whatever...his problem!  He chose her!  

And, btw, being a lady, even with class and the works, is very much underappreciated in the world today.  Sadly, despite what men say to the contrary.  Hence the saying &quot;nice girls finish last&quot;!  

If I had to do it all over again?  I would have been way more &quot;bitchy&#039;!  Yes, my friend.  AND dated as many men as I coud have fit into my busy schedule.  AND played them like a piano.  (Worked them against each other, made them jealous.)  In my 20s and early 30s, when I had the most power to do so!

Why?  

THEY WANT THIS BEHAVIOR.  Just like women say &quot;Oh, he&#039;s nice&quot; and aren&#039;t excited about a guy, so do the men!

If you have a power, people expect you to abuse it.  So do so!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is that supposed to mean?</p>
<p>Were you someone who got the run-around and/or &#8220;taken&#8221; in a serious relationship, marriage, or divorce?  That&#8217;s what it sounds like to me!  Well, buddy, remember that you CHOSE the woman who messed with your head!  You didn&#8217;t choose the lady, the woman with self-respect, the woman with class!</p>
<p>The bottom line is that the &#8220;men&#8221; of the world are the ones who say, &#8220;will you marry me?&#8221; or &#8220;yes, let&#8217;s be exclusive&#8221; or give off the hints that they are or are not up for something serious WITH THE WOMAN THEY CONSCIOUSLY OR UNCONSCIOUSLY CHOOSE TO BE THE ONE, in a marriage or a serious relationship.  </p>
<p>Regardless, because it is a fact of life that the man chooses as above, the man &#8220;gets&#8221; to pay&#8211;even wants to pay.  </p>
<p>And, if he chooses wrong, if he chooses a bitch or money-spender or whatever&#8230;his problem!  He chose her!  </p>
<p>And, btw, being a lady, even with class and the works, is very much underappreciated in the world today.  Sadly, despite what men say to the contrary.  Hence the saying &#8220;nice girls finish last&#8221;!  </p>
<p>If I had to do it all over again?  I would have been way more &#8220;bitchy&#8217;!  Yes, my friend.  AND dated as many men as I coud have fit into my busy schedule.  AND played them like a piano.  (Worked them against each other, made them jealous.)  In my 20s and early 30s, when I had the most power to do so!</p>
<p>Why?  </p>
<p>THEY WANT THIS BEHAVIOR.  Just like women say &#8220;Oh, he&#8217;s nice&#8221; and aren&#8217;t excited about a guy, so do the men!</p>
<p>If you have a power, people expect you to abuse it.  So do so!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 05:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naturally though being the 21st century the thought of ACTING like a lady and TREATING a man like a MAN is deplorable to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naturally though being the 21st century the thought of ACTING like a lady and TREATING a man like a MAN is deplorable to you.</p>
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		<title>By: tulipa</title>
		<link>http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/should-guys-always-pay-for-dates/comment-page-1/#comment-63408</link>
		<dc:creator>tulipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I struggle with who pays for what... the economic situation between myself and the guy I&#039;m dating is huge....he can afford things and pay for me to do things that I simply cannot afford, so I don&#039;t offer to pay because I&#039;m not in a position to. I do take a decent bottle of wine and chocolate he likes when I go to his place and I have paid for us when I have invited him somewhere but mostly he pays..... Its difficult and sometimes I feel guilty ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I struggle with who pays for what&#8230; the economic situation between myself and the guy I&#8217;m dating is huge&#8230;.he can afford things and pay for me to do things that I simply cannot afford, so I don&#8217;t offer to pay because I&#8217;m not in a position to. I do take a decent bottle of wine and chocolate he likes when I go to his place and I have paid for us when I have invited him somewhere but mostly he pays&#8230;.. Its difficult and sometimes I feel guilty &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am no princess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am no princess.</p>
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		<title>By: Nada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been on several first dates and I found that men assume they are going to pay, even if it is just for a coffee. The few times I offered to pay, I could see that the guy did not know how to react and did not like it. The modern dating world is full of rules. This is just another one - a rule (and, frankly, one of the easiest to get right). It simplifies life and avoids awkward moments. I would not read too much into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been on several first dates and I found that men assume they are going to pay, even if it is just for a coffee. The few times I offered to pay, I could see that the guy did not know how to react and did not like it. The modern dating world is full of rules. This is just another one &#8211; a rule (and, frankly, one of the easiest to get right). It simplifies life and avoids awkward moments. I would not read too much into it.</p>
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		<title>By: vivian2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivian2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 07:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You will feel you are being respected and cherished if the man you are dating can pay for the first date. It is hard to believe this man can do eveything for you if he can&#039;t pay for the first date. I will feel I am being treated as princess if the man can pay everything for me on the first date! Last month, I dated a man on wealthyromance.com. That man is not a certified millionaire on that site, but I feel he is trustworthy and I feel I am safe when staying with him because he can do everything for me on the first date.

Men will always be men and women will always be princesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will feel you are being respected and cherished if the man you are dating can pay for the first date. It is hard to believe this man can do eveything for you if he can&#8217;t pay for the first date. I will feel I am being treated as princess if the man can pay everything for me on the first date! Last month, I dated a man on wealthyromance.com. That man is not a certified millionaire on that site, but I feel he is trustworthy and I feel I am safe when staying with him because he can do everything for me on the first date.</p>
<p>Men will always be men and women will always be princesses.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I look at things this way.  I think it is stupid to expect the man to cover 100% of everything everytime.  I am perfectly capable of paying for my own beef tenderloin, thankyouverymuch.  However...should you invite ME out, particularly on the first date, I expect you to pay.  That being said, should I invite you out for dinner, well...then I should expect to pay, no?  I think even on a first date, it&#039;s fair to divvy things up.  For example, I was asked to go to the movies...he paid for the movie.  I bought the us two pints before the movie, and two after.  I mean, I don&#039;t mind being spoiled now and then, and I will never stop a man who offers to pay for the whole thing, but I pretty much go into every situation with the expectation I am to cover my own meal/food/ticket/coffee/beer, whatever.

Besides, little things like holding and opening my car door for me really adds up.  Any girl that has a freak out about that...well, do you really want to be dating her anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I look at things this way.  I think it is stupid to expect the man to cover 100% of everything everytime.  I am perfectly capable of paying for my own beef tenderloin, thankyouverymuch.  However&#8230;should you invite ME out, particularly on the first date, I expect you to pay.  That being said, should I invite you out for dinner, well&#8230;then I should expect to pay, no?  I think even on a first date, it&#8217;s fair to divvy things up.  For example, I was asked to go to the movies&#8230;he paid for the movie.  I bought the us two pints before the movie, and two after.  I mean, I don&#8217;t mind being spoiled now and then, and I will never stop a man who offers to pay for the whole thing, but I pretty much go into every situation with the expectation I am to cover my own meal/food/ticket/coffee/beer, whatever.</p>
<p>Besides, little things like holding and opening my car door for me really adds up.  Any girl that has a freak out about that&#8230;well, do you really want to be dating her anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Single and Flirting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Single and Flirting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The relationship was better afterwards when the guy was paying for the date.  When the guy didn&#039;t pay, I was treated like a doormat.  

For a long time I refused to believe that we were still that traditional.  When I finally accepted that fact, I&#039;ve had a much more exciting dating life.  I was disappointed by that.

Men will always be men and women will always be princesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The relationship was better afterwards when the guy was paying for the date.  When the guy didn&#8217;t pay, I was treated like a doormat.  </p>
<p>For a long time I refused to believe that we were still that traditional.  When I finally accepted that fact, I&#8217;ve had a much more exciting dating life.  I was disappointed by that.</p>
<p>Men will always be men and women will always be princesses.</p>
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		<title>By: DougV</title>
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		<dc:creator>DougV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a single guy who dates, I just have to throw in my two cents.  I would say 98% of the first dates I have been on, the expectation is that I pay.  

Having a lot of female friends, I asked &quot;what&#039;s the deal&quot;.  Why do women who are so independent that they get grumpy if I open the door for them expect me, without fail, to pay for dinner.  The answer (and check me on this ladies): it&#039;s a test.  It&#039;s an indicator that he has the 1. Resources and 2. the class.  If he can&#039;t afford dinner, there isn&#039;t much potential for more or if he doesn&#039;t make the effort on so common a nicety, he&#039;s probably emotionally clueless in more important areas.

Frankly, I will always offer to pay on the first date.  As a guy, it&#039;s really nice when you meet a woman that (after the first date) is willing to occasionally pay or go dutch.  First off, it&#039; fair.  But to reverse the &quot;test&quot;.  A woman that is willing to offer up when the bill comes is a woman more comfortable being an equal partner and not someone who expects to be taken care of all the time.  To me, that&#039;s a sign of a keeper.

Talking with female friends about similar views on things I&#039;ve found it fascinating that the same women who are often very independent and competative in other parts of their lives, fall back on old standards when dating.  Things like &quot;I would have a hard time dating a guy who is shorter; makes less money; et cetera.&quot;

I&#039;m 5&#039;11&quot; and make a decent living so it&#039;s not pouting, just find it interesting how very old notions pay a role in otherwise very modern women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a single guy who dates, I just have to throw in my two cents.  I would say 98% of the first dates I have been on, the expectation is that I pay.  </p>
<p>Having a lot of female friends, I asked &#8220;what&#8217;s the deal&#8221;.  Why do women who are so independent that they get grumpy if I open the door for them expect me, without fail, to pay for dinner.  The answer (and check me on this ladies): it&#8217;s a test.  It&#8217;s an indicator that he has the 1. Resources and 2. the class.  If he can&#8217;t afford dinner, there isn&#8217;t much potential for more or if he doesn&#8217;t make the effort on so common a nicety, he&#8217;s probably emotionally clueless in more important areas.</p>
<p>Frankly, I will always offer to pay on the first date.  As a guy, it&#8217;s really nice when you meet a woman that (after the first date) is willing to occasionally pay or go dutch.  First off, it&#8217; fair.  But to reverse the &#8220;test&#8221;.  A woman that is willing to offer up when the bill comes is a woman more comfortable being an equal partner and not someone who expects to be taken care of all the time.  To me, that&#8217;s a sign of a keeper.</p>
<p>Talking with female friends about similar views on things I&#8217;ve found it fascinating that the same women who are often very independent and competative in other parts of their lives, fall back on old standards when dating.  Things like &#8220;I would have a hard time dating a guy who is shorter; makes less money; et cetera.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 5&#8217;11&#8243; and make a decent living so it&#8217;s not pouting, just find it interesting how very old notions pay a role in otherwise very modern women.</p>
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