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		<title>By: Getting Past Your Anger &#38; Getting Out of Stuck &#124; Baggage Reclaim</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] She&#8217;s right and we often exaggerate them to stay in our comfort zone. Read my posts on that nagging voice of negativity, positive woman = positive relationships, challenging the misconceptions about love, relationships [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading all the posts and articles for hours... after just ending it with my EUM today, who was a LDR as well !! this is painful, it really hurts, but its comforting to know this learned pattern of behaviour can also be &#039;un-learned&#039; and that I am not alone in my predicament. thank you all :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading all the posts and articles for hours&#8230; after just ending it with my EUM today, who was a LDR as well !! this is painful, it really hurts, but its comforting to know this learned pattern of behaviour can also be &#8216;un-learned&#8217; and that I am not alone in my predicament. thank you all <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello NML - this is the post that I needed to read this weekend.  I am so glad I was able to search and find it on your website.  I&#039;ve been dating a great guy lately and my insecurities have been rearing their head in the past week or so.  He and I are still in the early days of our relationship, and I&#039;d say we are still not officially in one.  We are dating, having fun, but there is a few hours of distance involved.  Plus we both have very active lives, so our seeing each other requires commitment on both ends.

In any event, he is a great guy. A real gentleman and very considerate and nice.  Definitely not an assclown.  He calls, he holds the door for me, he&#039;s respectful.  We have fun, there is attraction - I could go on and on.  

Where I get insecure is that I don&#039;t think either of us know exactly where we are headed, and it&#039;s too early days to have that sort of discussion.  A lot of my friends want to know if this we are going to become girlfriend/boyfriend and other girlfriends (many eternally single girlfriends) seem excited to tell me how to act or not act.

Adding to that my poor choices in men over the past few years, my confidence is low sometimes.  

Turning inward - my thoughts range from thinking that after he paid me a huge compliment (like saying &quot;I wish every day could be like that day we spent together&quot;; or &quot;every weekend with you is a fun weekend&quot;) - he&#039;s about to deliver some death blow like &quot;but I can&#039;t go out with you any longer&quot;.  

He&#039;s away this weekend on a hiking trip and I&#039;ve taken the weekend to process why I am feeling the way I am feeling.  It&#039;s not because of any red flag behavior on his part.  It&#039;s all me and my insecurity.

I don&#039;t think he&#039;s picked up on it - I hope he hasn&#039;t.  I am determined to conquer these irrational thoughts.  

Do I know if we will become boyfriend/girlfriend at this stage? No. But what I do know is that this is the healthiest, most fun, most positive dating experience I have been in in well over a decade.  

A friend told me of an expression when your mind starts hurling garbage at you.  It&#039;s &quot;Get your Captain on deck!&quot;  Meaning - get a hold of yourself, take charge, have confidence and believe in yourself.  Do not sabotage yourself.  Be happy.

That&#039;s what I am committed to doing.  

Being eternally single (or eternally with an assclown) - is my comfort zone.  When I am single - it&#039;s an easy thing to just &quot;wish you had someone special&quot;.  When you are with (or at least me) an assclown, it&#039;s an easy emotion to over analyze and feel angst about &quot;why things can&#039;t be better.&quot;  Dating and being in the beginnings of a healthy relationship is brand new territory for me.  It can be easy - I think it&#039;s a combination of &quot;enjoying the calmness&quot; and &quot;getting your captain on deck&quot;.  

Anyway - thanks for the post.  This site has really helped me grow over the past few years.  Grow out of negative and unhealthy patterns. I still have a ways to go - but - it&#039;s just so nice to fell like I am making progress.

x!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello NML &#8211; this is the post that I needed to read this weekend.  I am so glad I was able to search and find it on your website.  I&#8217;ve been dating a great guy lately and my insecurities have been rearing their head in the past week or so.  He and I are still in the early days of our relationship, and I&#8217;d say we are still not officially in one.  We are dating, having fun, but there is a few hours of distance involved.  Plus we both have very active lives, so our seeing each other requires commitment on both ends.</p>
<p>In any event, he is a great guy. A real gentleman and very considerate and nice.  Definitely not an assclown.  He calls, he holds the door for me, he&#8217;s respectful.  We have fun, there is attraction &#8211; I could go on and on.  </p>
<p>Where I get insecure is that I don&#8217;t think either of us know exactly where we are headed, and it&#8217;s too early days to have that sort of discussion.  A lot of my friends want to know if this we are going to become girlfriend/boyfriend and other girlfriends (many eternally single girlfriends) seem excited to tell me how to act or not act.</p>
<p>Adding to that my poor choices in men over the past few years, my confidence is low sometimes.  </p>
<p>Turning inward &#8211; my thoughts range from thinking that after he paid me a huge compliment (like saying &#8220;I wish every day could be like that day we spent together&#8221;; or &#8220;every weekend with you is a fun weekend&#8221;) &#8211; he&#8217;s about to deliver some death blow like &#8220;but I can&#8217;t go out with you any longer&#8221;.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s away this weekend on a hiking trip and I&#8217;ve taken the weekend to process why I am feeling the way I am feeling.  It&#8217;s not because of any red flag behavior on his part.  It&#8217;s all me and my insecurity.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s picked up on it &#8211; I hope he hasn&#8217;t.  I am determined to conquer these irrational thoughts.  </p>
<p>Do I know if we will become boyfriend/girlfriend at this stage? No. But what I do know is that this is the healthiest, most fun, most positive dating experience I have been in in well over a decade.  </p>
<p>A friend told me of an expression when your mind starts hurling garbage at you.  It&#8217;s &#8220;Get your Captain on deck!&#8221;  Meaning &#8211; get a hold of yourself, take charge, have confidence and believe in yourself.  Do not sabotage yourself.  Be happy.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I am committed to doing.  </p>
<p>Being eternally single (or eternally with an assclown) &#8211; is my comfort zone.  When I am single &#8211; it&#8217;s an easy thing to just &#8220;wish you had someone special&#8221;.  When you are with (or at least me) an assclown, it&#8217;s an easy emotion to over analyze and feel angst about &#8220;why things can&#8217;t be better.&#8221;  Dating and being in the beginnings of a healthy relationship is brand new territory for me.  It can be easy &#8211; I think it&#8217;s a combination of &#8220;enjoying the calmness&#8221; and &#8220;getting your captain on deck&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; thanks for the post.  This site has really helped me grow over the past few years.  Grow out of negative and unhealthy patterns. I still have a ways to go &#8211; but &#8211; it&#8217;s just so nice to fell like I am making progress.</p>
<p>x!</p>
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		<title>By: truthhurts</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthhurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just realized something crying over the assclown tonight and doing some soulsearching (turning the attention to me, thanks NML). 

I was a drama seeking girl. Because it was familiar for me and I truly believed that was just who I was. Now l know that I just thought I didnÂ´t deserve serenity, a family, the whole package. I was afraid that l wouldnÂ´t measure up to a good guy. I.e. I didnÂ´t think I was good enough. 

Now l realise that I need a man that can have some empathy to a little flaw or a little insecurity  once in a while. Nobody is perfect. And I donÂ´t have to be perfect to deserve a good guy. I just have to know that I want and deserve compassion. Not just passion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just realized something crying over the assclown tonight and doing some soulsearching (turning the attention to me, thanks NML). </p>
<p>I was a drama seeking girl. Because it was familiar for me and I truly believed that was just who I was. Now l know that I just thought I didnÂ´t deserve serenity, a family, the whole package. I was afraid that l wouldnÂ´t measure up to a good guy. I.e. I didnÂ´t think I was good enough. </p>
<p>Now l realise that I need a man that can have some empathy to a little flaw or a little insecurity  once in a while. Nobody is perfect. And I donÂ´t have to be perfect to deserve a good guy. I just have to know that I want and deserve compassion. Not just passion.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruby Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruby Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, this post has me thinking about my current situation...

After a good 2 years of meeting EU men, I now fear my internal messaging is out of whack. I&#039;ve met a nice guy but wonder if, deep down, he&#039;s just like the rest - sure, he flatters me, is respectful and lovely and we have a great time together, but I feel (after repeated negative experiences)  as if I&#039;m now so needy for attention that because he doesn&#039;t call me every night (we work at the same place) or doesn&#039;t reply to EVERY email/text, that it&#039;s a sign he&#039;s not interested. I do not make this insecurity obvious to him.

On the one hand, I am quick to cut ties with anyone who is overly demanding or  who has obvious issues: like the guy who told me he had 3 kids and then questioned/overanalysed why I wanted to know the gender split, refusing to accept I was merely interested to know! And the guy I tried and failed to meet up with, who refused to accept my explanations then sent me long, ranting texts saying he was &#039;trying to be nice&#039; (how big of him). 

But give me someone I like and I am filled with fear. Now I don&#039;t know if the nagging voice is one of reason or if it&#039;s the negative self-fulfilling prophecy voice. After all, I am telling friends I am scared to say I have met someone new, because I KNOW it will go wrong; but I so desperately want to enjoy being with him.  

Long story short: my recent experiences have left me scared to love. How do I tune into my true instinct again? What do I need to look out for in this guy, and perhaps even myself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, this post has me thinking about my current situation&#8230;</p>
<p>After a good 2 years of meeting EU men, I now fear my internal messaging is out of whack. I&#8217;ve met a nice guy but wonder if, deep down, he&#8217;s just like the rest &#8211; sure, he flatters me, is respectful and lovely and we have a great time together, but I feel (after repeated negative experiences)  as if I&#8217;m now so needy for attention that because he doesn&#8217;t call me every night (we work at the same place) or doesn&#8217;t reply to EVERY email/text, that it&#8217;s a sign he&#8217;s not interested. I do not make this insecurity obvious to him.</p>
<p>On the one hand, I am quick to cut ties with anyone who is overly demanding or  who has obvious issues: like the guy who told me he had 3 kids and then questioned/overanalysed why I wanted to know the gender split, refusing to accept I was merely interested to know! And the guy I tried and failed to meet up with, who refused to accept my explanations then sent me long, ranting texts saying he was &#8216;trying to be nice&#8217; (how big of him). </p>
<p>But give me someone I like and I am filled with fear. Now I don&#8217;t know if the nagging voice is one of reason or if it&#8217;s the negative self-fulfilling prophecy voice. After all, I am telling friends I am scared to say I have met someone new, because I KNOW it will go wrong; but I so desperately want to enjoy being with him.  </p>
<p>Long story short: my recent experiences have left me scared to love. How do I tune into my true instinct again? What do I need to look out for in this guy, and perhaps even myself?</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>finallyseenthelight, that could be the case. He may have wanted to break up and wanted me to do the dirty work. He always leaves his personal papers out. I think he left that one out  because he contacted that guy earlier that day.

Several people have suggested to me over the years that he make have undiagnosed aspergers.  If that is the case, I am not equipped to deal with that type of disorder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>finallyseenthelight, that could be the case. He may have wanted to break up and wanted me to do the dirty work. He always leaves his personal papers out. I think he left that one out  because he contacted that guy earlier that day.</p>
<p>Several people have suggested to me over the years that he make have undiagnosed aspergers.  If that is the case, I am not equipped to deal with that type of disorder.</p>
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		<title>By: finallyseenthelight</title>
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		<dc:creator>finallyseenthelight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean, I think you did the right thing.  I thought the only lie was about the money, which isn&#039;t right to begin with, but if he&#039;s been lying and hiding his cell phone, then it&#039;s only the tip of the iceberg!!!  I would also be concerned that he&#039;s not all that bright if he loans someone money and they don&#039;t pay him back and then he loans them more...you don&#039;t need to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.  Also, unfortunately, he&#039;s getting caught in his lies...so either he&#039;s not that bright, or was too cowardly to break up with you, so he&#039;s purposely lying and wanting to get caught (like leaving the IOU in plain sight by his papers)...so you can do the dirty work and break up with him.  Many men do this as they are really too cowardly to be the one to say they want to break up and act like jerks so you will get mad and do the deed.  Jean, you deserve better than someone who will lie, and be deceptive to your face.  You did the right thing.  It&#039;s hard to separate after being with someone for so many years...but better to find out now than after you may have married him or had kids with him.
HUGS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean, I think you did the right thing.  I thought the only lie was about the money, which isn&#8217;t right to begin with, but if he&#8217;s been lying and hiding his cell phone, then it&#8217;s only the tip of the iceberg!!!  I would also be concerned that he&#8217;s not all that bright if he loans someone money and they don&#8217;t pay him back and then he loans them more&#8230;you don&#8217;t need to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.  Also, unfortunately, he&#8217;s getting caught in his lies&#8230;so either he&#8217;s not that bright, or was too cowardly to break up with you, so he&#8217;s purposely lying and wanting to get caught (like leaving the IOU in plain sight by his papers)&#8230;so you can do the dirty work and break up with him.  Many men do this as they are really too cowardly to be the one to say they want to break up and act like jerks so you will get mad and do the deed.  Jean, you deserve better than someone who will lie, and be deceptive to your face.  You did the right thing.  It&#8217;s hard to separate after being with someone for so many years&#8230;but better to find out now than after you may have married him or had kids with him.<br />
HUGS</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>finallyseenthelight, do you think his repeated lying is justified? He started lying to me about all kinds of things when this was going on. He was being sneaky and hiding his cell phone. 

The issue isn&#039;t controlling his money. The issue is his lying and deceptiveness towards me and his repeated poor judgment.

Carm, yes he probably was embarrassed and ashamed at being duped but when I discovered what had happened and we talked about it. He knew I wasn&#039;t thinking badly of him and he told me he wouldn&#039;t give him anymore money, I thought it was all a non issue and resolved.

You are right. It isn&#039;t about me controlling his money. It is the poor judgment and the lying and deceptive behaviors that came out. He started lying to me about all kinds of things. 

So when I saw the note dated after he had promised not to loan the guy anymore money and I confronted him and he looked me right in the eye and lied to me saying that was before, I knew this was very serious. I knew he was capable of looking me in the eye and lying to me about something that I already knew the truth about and that he was capable of being sneaky and deceptive about other things. 

He broke my trust forever and I said goodbye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>finallyseenthelight, do you think his repeated lying is justified? He started lying to me about all kinds of things when this was going on. He was being sneaky and hiding his cell phone. </p>
<p>The issue isn&#8217;t controlling his money. The issue is his lying and deceptiveness towards me and his repeated poor judgment.</p>
<p>Carm, yes he probably was embarrassed and ashamed at being duped but when I discovered what had happened and we talked about it. He knew I wasn&#8217;t thinking badly of him and he told me he wouldn&#8217;t give him anymore money, I thought it was all a non issue and resolved.</p>
<p>You are right. It isn&#8217;t about me controlling his money. It is the poor judgment and the lying and deceptive behaviors that came out. He started lying to me about all kinds of things. </p>
<p>So when I saw the note dated after he had promised not to loan the guy anymore money and I confronted him and he looked me right in the eye and lied to me saying that was before, I knew this was very serious. I knew he was capable of looking me in the eye and lying to me about something that I already knew the truth about and that he was capable of being sneaky and deceptive about other things. </p>
<p>He broke my trust forever and I said goodbye.</p>
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		<title>By: Carm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean,  I would be really concerned about the lying.  Even though your finances are not together and they are essentially his own business, you said that you both tended to run major financial things past each other before.  What he did is a pretty major financial thing, and one in very poor judgement and he probably realizes this, which is why he didn&#039;t tell you. The biggest problem I see is that he promised to you not to do it again after you first found out, and then he did it again.  And if you feel that after 5 years he is acting as a single guy with no commitment to you, and you do not trust him now, it is a problem.  And Finallyseenthelight I don&#039;t think he is learning his lesson about lending and not getting paid back because he lent $3000, didn&#039;t get paid back, and then lent another $900 to the same guy.  I don&#039;t think Jean is trying to control what he does with his money; she is rightfully concerned this guy is doing something that is in bad judgement, and on top of it lying about it repeatedly. I think she is right in considering ending the relationship after he broke her trust, even though those are his own finances.  Where there is one lie, there are usually many more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean,  I would be really concerned about the lying.  Even though your finances are not together and they are essentially his own business, you said that you both tended to run major financial things past each other before.  What he did is a pretty major financial thing, and one in very poor judgement and he probably realizes this, which is why he didn&#8217;t tell you. The biggest problem I see is that he promised to you not to do it again after you first found out, and then he did it again.  And if you feel that after 5 years he is acting as a single guy with no commitment to you, and you do not trust him now, it is a problem.  And Finallyseenthelight I don&#8217;t think he is learning his lesson about lending and not getting paid back because he lent $3000, didn&#8217;t get paid back, and then lent another $900 to the same guy.  I don&#8217;t think Jean is trying to control what he does with his money; she is rightfully concerned this guy is doing something that is in bad judgement, and on top of it lying about it repeatedly. I think she is right in considering ending the relationship after he broke her trust, even though those are his own finances.  Where there is one lie, there are usually many more.</p>
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		<title>By: finallyseenthelight</title>
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		<dc:creator>finallyseenthelight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean,
First, I understand how the lying is making you crazy.  I too, believe in honesty,  However, I think that if you are not married to this guy or living together or have your money combined, so that his finances are really his own business.  I think you are trying to control what he does with his money and it&#039;s not your place.  He may be lying to you because he knows you will freak out and he doesn&#039;t want to deal with it.  Secondly, why is he lending money to a co-worker to begin with?  Are you certain he isn&#039;t doing something else underhanded, like a bookie or loan sharking?  He seems to be covering it up because he doesn&#039;t want you to freak out...Is he secretive in other ways?  Do you know for certain he isn&#039;t involved in some type of gambling, bookie, etc?  Sometimes, people are not what they seem to be.  On the other hand, if he is a good guy that was just trying to help out a friend, and he&#039;s on the up and up in every other way and treats you great, then you might want to consider forgiving him...there&#039;s a million assclowns and jerks out there that you wouldn&#039;t want...Also, have you thought that you are not his mother, or his keeper and he can learn the lesson of lending and not getting paid back on his own...he is his own person and just because you are in a relationship, you don&#039;t have control over everything he does...and if you did, would you want a man without a backbone???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean,<br />
First, I understand how the lying is making you crazy.  I too, believe in honesty,  However, I think that if you are not married to this guy or living together or have your money combined, so that his finances are really his own business.  I think you are trying to control what he does with his money and it&#8217;s not your place.  He may be lying to you because he knows you will freak out and he doesn&#8217;t want to deal with it.  Secondly, why is he lending money to a co-worker to begin with?  Are you certain he isn&#8217;t doing something else underhanded, like a bookie or loan sharking?  He seems to be covering it up because he doesn&#8217;t want you to freak out&#8230;Is he secretive in other ways?  Do you know for certain he isn&#8217;t involved in some type of gambling, bookie, etc?  Sometimes, people are not what they seem to be.  On the other hand, if he is a good guy that was just trying to help out a friend, and he&#8217;s on the up and up in every other way and treats you great, then you might want to consider forgiving him&#8230;there&#8217;s a million assclowns and jerks out there that you wouldn&#8217;t want&#8230;Also, have you thought that you are not his mother, or his keeper and he can learn the lesson of lending and not getting paid back on his own&#8230;he is his own person and just because you are in a relationship, you don&#8217;t have control over everything he does&#8230;and if you did, would you want a man without a backbone???</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
		<link>http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/that-nagging-voice-the-danger-of-internal-negative-messaging/comment-page-1/#comment-217868</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am having a serious dilemma right now; one in which I was so angry after a confrontation with the bf that I just stormed out of his house.

Situation: We&#039;ve been together for 5 years. We do not live together but we are in a committed exclusive relationship.

We had the Christmas holidays off and he admitted to me he loaned some guy from work $500 and was having trouble getting it back. The guy kept calling him while bf was at my house over the holidays.

I found out later bf had lied to me about the amount. It was nearly $3000 and there were a whole bunch of lies associated with it.

I was quite angry at him because he financial good sense is one of the things I had really admired in him and I thought we were to the point of bouncing ideas off each other when we weren&#039;t sure. Any major purchases I had made I ran them by him first just to make sure I wasn&#039;t doing anything foolish and he tended to do the same thing.

We got into it over this and his lying and nearly broke up over it. I felt I couldn&#039;t trust him anymore. He promised me he would not loan the guy anymore money ever again. The guy never did pay him back either.

I thought things had been resolved about it. I really did.

I was over spending the night last night and wanted to write something down quickly I saw online. He was still sleeping. I just grabbed a piece of paper on the desk and started to write my phone numbers down and then I noticed there were a bunch of figures on the paper. I opened it up and there was a handwritten promissory note from the con artist guy to my bf. It said that my M had loaned him $900 on January 5th and he would pay him back on January 6th with $100 interest.

Ok I nearly went through the roof! My bf had promised me no more lying and no more giving this con artist money the last week in December.

So I was livid and went in and confronted him about it and bf basically told me it was none of my business and it was his money and he can do what he wants to with it and that I had no reason to be angry with him.

I said you lied to me and you promised not to give him anymore money and then bf kept lying saying he hadn&#039;t.

I said clearly you see yourself as a single guy who has zero commitment or obligation to me so I think we should cool it for awhile. I said you be single all you want and so will I. I said that his financial responsibility was one of the things I really liked about him and attracted me to him and that trust is the back bone of any relationship and I don&#039;t trust you.

I got my things and left.

What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having a serious dilemma right now; one in which I was so angry after a confrontation with the bf that I just stormed out of his house.</p>
<p>Situation: We&#8217;ve been together for 5 years. We do not live together but we are in a committed exclusive relationship.</p>
<p>We had the Christmas holidays off and he admitted to me he loaned some guy from work $500 and was having trouble getting it back. The guy kept calling him while bf was at my house over the holidays.</p>
<p>I found out later bf had lied to me about the amount. It was nearly $3000 and there were a whole bunch of lies associated with it.</p>
<p>I was quite angry at him because he financial good sense is one of the things I had really admired in him and I thought we were to the point of bouncing ideas off each other when we weren&#8217;t sure. Any major purchases I had made I ran them by him first just to make sure I wasn&#8217;t doing anything foolish and he tended to do the same thing.</p>
<p>We got into it over this and his lying and nearly broke up over it. I felt I couldn&#8217;t trust him anymore. He promised me he would not loan the guy anymore money ever again. The guy never did pay him back either.</p>
<p>I thought things had been resolved about it. I really did.</p>
<p>I was over spending the night last night and wanted to write something down quickly I saw online. He was still sleeping. I just grabbed a piece of paper on the desk and started to write my phone numbers down and then I noticed there were a bunch of figures on the paper. I opened it up and there was a handwritten promissory note from the con artist guy to my bf. It said that my M had loaned him $900 on January 5th and he would pay him back on January 6th with $100 interest.</p>
<p>Ok I nearly went through the roof! My bf had promised me no more lying and no more giving this con artist money the last week in December.</p>
<p>So I was livid and went in and confronted him about it and bf basically told me it was none of my business and it was his money and he can do what he wants to with it and that I had no reason to be angry with him.</p>
<p>I said you lied to me and you promised not to give him anymore money and then bf kept lying saying he hadn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I said clearly you see yourself as a single guy who has zero commitment or obligation to me so I think we should cool it for awhile. I said you be single all you want and so will I. I said that his financial responsibility was one of the things I really liked about him and attracted me to him and that trust is the back bone of any relationship and I don&#8217;t trust you.</p>
<p>I got my things and left.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: finallyseenthelight</title>
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		<dc:creator>finallyseenthelight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 22:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The negative self messaging is very dangerous and it takes consistent, daily positive messaging to overcome the negative.  The negative creeps in and I work hard to change those thoughts around.  I met with an old friend from HS and we hadn&#039;t seen each other in years...her comment when I told her about my last relationship with my ex EUM was &quot;you still go for the bad boys, you go for the good looking bad boys and have to break that addiction.&quot;  I realize she is right and I&#039;m working hard to change it...however, I notice that the nice guys I&#039;ve been out with I haven&#039;t been attracted to.  I still believe there has to be some chemistry/spark to want to be romantically involved with a guy.  HELP!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The negative self messaging is very dangerous and it takes consistent, daily positive messaging to overcome the negative.  The negative creeps in and I work hard to change those thoughts around.  I met with an old friend from HS and we hadn&#8217;t seen each other in years&#8230;her comment when I told her about my last relationship with my ex EUM was &#8220;you still go for the bad boys, you go for the good looking bad boys and have to break that addiction.&#8221;  I realize she is right and I&#8217;m working hard to change it&#8230;however, I notice that the nice guys I&#8217;ve been out with I haven&#8217;t been attracted to.  I still believe there has to be some chemistry/spark to want to be romantically involved with a guy.  HELP!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: LovingMe</title>
		<link>http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/that-nagging-voice-the-danger-of-internal-negative-messaging/comment-page-1/#comment-217823</link>
		<dc:creator>LovingMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Natalie, 

Great post, and great website, and great book. 

I will never be able to thank you enough or communicate enough how much you have helped me to overcome my EUM addiction and to become a better person. 

After all this journey, now I have a big question and I hope you can help me. 

I read your book back in October, after a very nasty break up with my exboyfriend, for whom I left my life back home (somewhere in Latin America) to move with him to another country (Middle East), only to for him to dump me a couple of weeks after.  I left my job, friends, family, sold all my stuff, because I was like you say, too hooked up in my own little fairytale. I screw up big time. However I donÂ´t regret it because it was my ephypany relationship. And I needed that. I needed my wake up call. I am turning 34 this year and IÂ´ve had enough after having only dated emotionally unavailable men since I started to date back in highshool. Honestly. IÂ´ve never been attracted to nice guys. And IÂ´ve had enough.

So after the nasty breakup I knew things had to change so I turned to the internet for answers and luckly I found you. 

After reading your book I understood how the EUM addiction is rooted on low self esteem and negative messaging. I already suspected that all my relationship problems were related to my parenting. My father is an alcoholic (sober for 8 months now, thank God), and an EUM, and my mother is EUM too. 

Apart from reading your wonderful book I also complemented my change process with another book about healing your inner emotional wounds from childhood and reconstructing your self image and self esteem. 

Is been such a long and hard process, but is been worth it. Iâ€™ve already became a much more positive person, I am truly loving myself now and taking care of myself. I no longer believe that I need to be perfect in order to be lovable. I no longer believe that I don&#039;t deserve to be loved. I have taken responsability for my actions, for my emotions, for my emotional healing, and for my well being in every single way. My transformation has been incredible. As you probably know, in so many ways adult children of alcoholics remain children even when we become adults. IÂ´ve worked so hard to tame my past and come in terms with that and the progress has been amazing. My growth as been amazing. After my therapy and inner work I am becoming a more responsible person, I turn up on time for work, I actually get my work done, I am commited to losing the weight that reflects my old self esteem, I take care of my health and hygiene, I eat healthier, get enough sleep, drink and smoke less, etc. Equally importantly, Iâ€™ve learned to set boundaries on myself and others, and stick to them, I have taken giant steps to overcome the residual depression that I still go through after having being diagnosed with clinical depression 3 years ago. Now I know I am perfect just as I am, and I am lovable and deserve to be happy. I have learned to control and ignore all the negative inner talk. I just walked away from a EUM with GF a few weeks ago. As I said, my progress has been amazing, and I truly feel it and mean it.

However itÂ´s been a very overwhelming process, and sometimes I do get tired.

I  get tired of all the changes Iâ€™ve had to make and all the changes I still have to make.

I get upset because I wonder why does it have to be so difficult for me whilst others have it so easy.

And more important, I am getting a little discouraged because I keep attracting EUMS. 

True, now I detect them much more easily, and I walk away from them, even when a part of me wants to stick around and jump through the hoops and go back to my bad habits of â€œworking hard for loveâ€.
But none the less, I keep attracting these guys, and I am getting discouraged.

So all my rant basically is because I want to ask you how can we remain positive and motivated and think that eventually we will meet the right guy, when we keep meeting all these EUMS ? I am getting tired of this and I am seriously thinking about giving up, even that I know that would be even more counterproductive :(

Any advice would be much appreciated.

THANK YOU AGAIN FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, YOUÂ´VE CHANGED MY LIFE NATALIE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Natalie, </p>
<p>Great post, and great website, and great book. </p>
<p>I will never be able to thank you enough or communicate enough how much you have helped me to overcome my EUM addiction and to become a better person. </p>
<p>After all this journey, now I have a big question and I hope you can help me. </p>
<p>I read your book back in October, after a very nasty break up with my exboyfriend, for whom I left my life back home (somewhere in Latin America) to move with him to another country (Middle East), only to for him to dump me a couple of weeks after.  I left my job, friends, family, sold all my stuff, because I was like you say, too hooked up in my own little fairytale. I screw up big time. However I donÂ´t regret it because it was my ephypany relationship. And I needed that. I needed my wake up call. I am turning 34 this year and IÂ´ve had enough after having only dated emotionally unavailable men since I started to date back in highshool. Honestly. IÂ´ve never been attracted to nice guys. And IÂ´ve had enough.</p>
<p>So after the nasty breakup I knew things had to change so I turned to the internet for answers and luckly I found you. </p>
<p>After reading your book I understood how the EUM addiction is rooted on low self esteem and negative messaging. I already suspected that all my relationship problems were related to my parenting. My father is an alcoholic (sober for 8 months now, thank God), and an EUM, and my mother is EUM too. </p>
<p>Apart from reading your wonderful book I also complemented my change process with another book about healing your inner emotional wounds from childhood and reconstructing your self image and self esteem. </p>
<p>Is been such a long and hard process, but is been worth it. Iâ€™ve already became a much more positive person, I am truly loving myself now and taking care of myself. I no longer believe that I need to be perfect in order to be lovable. I no longer believe that I don&#8217;t deserve to be loved. I have taken responsability for my actions, for my emotions, for my emotional healing, and for my well being in every single way. My transformation has been incredible. As you probably know, in so many ways adult children of alcoholics remain children even when we become adults. IÂ´ve worked so hard to tame my past and come in terms with that and the progress has been amazing. My growth as been amazing. After my therapy and inner work I am becoming a more responsible person, I turn up on time for work, I actually get my work done, I am commited to losing the weight that reflects my old self esteem, I take care of my health and hygiene, I eat healthier, get enough sleep, drink and smoke less, etc. Equally importantly, Iâ€™ve learned to set boundaries on myself and others, and stick to them, I have taken giant steps to overcome the residual depression that I still go through after having being diagnosed with clinical depression 3 years ago. Now I know I am perfect just as I am, and I am lovable and deserve to be happy. I have learned to control and ignore all the negative inner talk. I just walked away from a EUM with GF a few weeks ago. As I said, my progress has been amazing, and I truly feel it and mean it.</p>
<p>However itÂ´s been a very overwhelming process, and sometimes I do get tired.</p>
<p>I  get tired of all the changes Iâ€™ve had to make and all the changes I still have to make.</p>
<p>I get upset because I wonder why does it have to be so difficult for me whilst others have it so easy.</p>
<p>And more important, I am getting a little discouraged because I keep attracting EUMS. </p>
<p>True, now I detect them much more easily, and I walk away from them, even when a part of me wants to stick around and jump through the hoops and go back to my bad habits of â€œworking hard for loveâ€.<br />
But none the less, I keep attracting these guys, and I am getting discouraged.</p>
<p>So all my rant basically is because I want to ask you how can we remain positive and motivated and think that eventually we will meet the right guy, when we keep meeting all these EUMS ? I am getting tired of this and I am seriously thinking about giving up, even that I know that would be even more counterproductive <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Any advice would be much appreciated.</p>
<p>THANK YOU AGAIN FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, YOUÂ´VE CHANGED MY LIFE NATALIE.</p>
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		<title>By: finallyseenthelight</title>
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		<dc:creator>finallyseenthelight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel...thanks for your river analogy...I&#039;ll think about that too, when times are difficult for me in letting go.
;o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel&#8230;thanks for your river analogy&#8230;I&#8217;ll think about that too, when times are difficult for me in letting go.<br />
;o)</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the splat! story that will go along way for me.  

I ignored my inner voice because people around me who did not see the real clown behind the ultra successful UM thought I was not being fair expecting proper behaviour from such a &quot;Catch&quot;. I held friends opinions over my own gut feelings which further eroded my self esteem. I held off kicking this guy to the curb for years because I did not listen to me FIRST. 

I would like to share one thought that helped me let go:

Let us imagine that life is a river.  Most people are clinging to the bank, afraid to let go and risk being carried along by the current of the river.  When the pain of hanging on becomes greater than the fear of letting go, we let go and the river begins to carry us along safely.  Once we are used to being in the flow of the river, we can begin to look ahead and guide our course.  We choose which of the many branches of the river we prefer to follow, all the while still going with the flow.  We can enjoy being here now, flowing with what is and at the same time, guide ourselves consciously toward our goals by taking full responsibility for creating our own lives.

The pain of hanging on became too great.  Finally I let the river of life take me to where I am supposed to be.  I am 4 months NC and my life is much happier and less stressful than it used to be waiting on my EUM now I have hope for my future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the splat! story that will go along way for me.  </p>
<p>I ignored my inner voice because people around me who did not see the real clown behind the ultra successful UM thought I was not being fair expecting proper behaviour from such a &#8220;Catch&#8221;. I held friends opinions over my own gut feelings which further eroded my self esteem. I held off kicking this guy to the curb for years because I did not listen to me FIRST. </p>
<p>I would like to share one thought that helped me let go:</p>
<p>Let us imagine that life is a river.  Most people are clinging to the bank, afraid to let go and risk being carried along by the current of the river.  When the pain of hanging on becomes greater than the fear of letting go, we let go and the river begins to carry us along safely.  Once we are used to being in the flow of the river, we can begin to look ahead and guide our course.  We choose which of the many branches of the river we prefer to follow, all the while still going with the flow.  We can enjoy being here now, flowing with what is and at the same time, guide ourselves consciously toward our goals by taking full responsibility for creating our own lives.</p>
<p>The pain of hanging on became too great.  Finally I let the river of life take me to where I am supposed to be.  I am 4 months NC and my life is much happier and less stressful than it used to be waiting on my EUM now I have hope for my future.</p>
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