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	<title>Comments on: Understanding what makes you angry &amp; why in relationships &amp; post breakup â€“ part one</title>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just have to comment.  I&#039;ve been reading this site for a while because I have my own EUM.  I would tell my story, but I have to admit I&#039;m embarrassed.  I&#039;m finally trying NC, but its hard, just like you&#039;ve all said.  But, you&#039;re right, it will be the best thing I do.  You are all an inspiration, thank you and thank you Natalie.  I&#039;m trying every day, sometimes I&#039;m just angry or sad at myself, I think I can&#039;t get over how dumb I feel more than anything.  Anyway, you are all awesome :-)

Mel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have to comment.  I&#8217;ve been reading this site for a while because I have my own EUM.  I would tell my story, but I have to admit I&#8217;m embarrassed.  I&#8217;m finally trying NC, but its hard, just like you&#8217;ve all said.  But, you&#8217;re right, it will be the best thing I do.  You are all an inspiration, thank you and thank you Natalie.  I&#8217;m trying every day, sometimes I&#8217;m just angry or sad at myself, I think I can&#8217;t get over how dumb I feel more than anything.  Anyway, you are all awesome <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mel</p>
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		<title>By: Vanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xes and Os my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xes and Os my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: metsgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>metsgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Junie<br />
I can identify completely with what you&#8217;re expressing (unsatisfying job, no friends, allowing someone to hurt you, etc).  Just remember, a lot of this anger we learned to internalize and we repeat in our relationships.  I know for me, I&#8217;m not trying to forget the &#8220;ugly times&#8221; but instead trying to embrace them for what they were.  I handled my life the best way I knew how (at the time).  Was it my fault?  Maybe&#8230;maybe not&#8230;but it was my responsibility to take care of myself and I finally accept that.<br />
I&#8217;m happy that I can now see the light and it&#8217;s even easier to embrace the ugly stuff because I see it in a different context.  In my humble opinion (concerning you) I would ease up on yourself and give yourself permission (if you haven&#8217;t already) to forgive your part in the past.  </p>
<p>Once you forgive yourself, you&#8217;ll see it gets easier to discover who you are and what makes you &#8220;tick&#8221;.  Maybe I&#8217;m not out of the woods yet but for all that it&#8217;s worth, I can see daylight.  Just like NML says above&#8230;.&#8221;you’ve made a lucky escape&#8221;.  I wish you the very best &#8211; Hugs</p>
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		<title>By: trinity</title>
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		<dc:creator>trinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep having to see them every day does make it harder, especially at the begining....quite unbearable.
Its amazing what we can adapt to though :)

@ Movingon
im still going strong but i didnt have to send one email early Jan as his behaviour at work was getting ridiculous. Since then he has left me alone :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep having to see them every day does make it harder, especially at the begining&#8230;.quite unbearable.<br />
Its amazing what we can adapt to though <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Movingon<br />
im still going strong but i didnt have to send one email early Jan as his behaviour at work was getting ridiculous. Since then he has left me alone <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Moving on in 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moving on in 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Trinity-

Funny, I was thinking about you the other day as well!  Hope you are still staying strong :)

Yes, I agree, his ignoring the point of my email of not wanting to be friends anymore and still wanting to talk to me was disrespectful.  I made sure to keep the conversation short.  As I mentioned to @Used, in the future when douchebag is in town, I will be sure to work from home, decline happy hour invitations, and should I have the misfortune of running into him again at work, keep conversations short and only on a professional level.</description>
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<p>Funny, I was thinking about you the other day as well!  Hope you are still staying strong <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, I agree, his ignoring the point of my email of not wanting to be friends anymore and still wanting to talk to me was disrespectful.  I made sure to keep the conversation short.  As I mentioned to @Used, in the future when douchebag is in town, I will be sure to work from home, decline happy hour invitations, and should I have the misfortune of running into him again at work, keep conversations short and only on a professional level.</p>
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		<title>By: Moving on in 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moving on in 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Used-

Nope-he&#039;s not married, BUT he has a lot of baggage (divorced, has a son with his ex-girlfriend, and some other major issues).  

I agree with you-Had I not worked with him, things would definitely have been different.  I know I still would have been hurt by the way he treated me, but I wouldn&#039;t have had to see him everyday and therefore I would have healed a lot faster.  

Now, each time I see him when he comes into town, I have to put on this professional front that kills me because I hate being fake.  On the outside, I look as though nothing has phased me, but deep down inside, I have all these spiteful things I would love to say to him.  I know I am better than that, which is why I will continue to distance myself from him-no joining coworker happy hours or other outside work activities when he is around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Used-</p>
<p>Nope-he&#8217;s not married, BUT he has a lot of baggage (divorced, has a son with his ex-girlfriend, and some other major issues).  </p>
<p>I agree with you-Had I not worked with him, things would definitely have been different.  I know I still would have been hurt by the way he treated me, but I wouldn&#8217;t have had to see him everyday and therefore I would have healed a lot faster.  </p>
<p>Now, each time I see him when he comes into town, I have to put on this professional front that kills me because I hate being fake.  On the outside, I look as though nothing has phased me, but deep down inside, I have all these spiteful things I would love to say to him.  I know I am better than that, which is why I will continue to distance myself from him-no joining coworker happy hours or other outside work activities when he is around.</p>
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		<title>By: Junie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Junie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know exactly how to release anger. I&#039;m feeling sometimes better than before, having a life on my own. My affair with an EUM (almost 1 year) was terrible and with serious consequences. 
I am currently dealing with the very fact that I have emotional availability issues and also a lot of anger and frustration as baggage. This anger occured during family, love, work and friendships relationships and was unfortunately internalised (not sure about the psychological term, it was actually not released).

Another problem is that my current job is not so satisfying and it&#039;s also a source of frustrations but I&#039;m trying to improve this aspect by cultivating my own strong points. Maybe one day I&#039;ll be able to have more fun at work.
A good fact about myself is that I enjoy jogging and gym practising and these activities are a type of anger release. This is how I feel. 

I don&#039;t have many friends and this is also an issue. Longing to have fun, but not actually having friends. Trying to have fun on my own, but it&#039;s so difficult. I think here is the key.

I&#039;m aware that huge parts of my life were based on a false truth (false misconceptions, they say) and on false values. 

I don&#039;t know who I am, how I am. Trying to discover, trying to forget all the ugly times. The anger is here and I would like to break a mirror, sometimes. I was so naive and let myself so deeply hurt. How was that possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know exactly how to release anger. I&#8217;m feeling sometimes better than before, having a life on my own. My affair with an EUM (almost 1 year) was terrible and with serious consequences.<br />
I am currently dealing with the very fact that I have emotional availability issues and also a lot of anger and frustration as baggage. This anger occured during family, love, work and friendships relationships and was unfortunately internalised (not sure about the psychological term, it was actually not released).</p>
<p>Another problem is that my current job is not so satisfying and it&#8217;s also a source of frustrations but I&#8217;m trying to improve this aspect by cultivating my own strong points. Maybe one day I&#8217;ll be able to have more fun at work.<br />
A good fact about myself is that I enjoy jogging and gym practising and these activities are a type of anger release. This is how I feel. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have many friends and this is also an issue. Longing to have fun, but not actually having friends. Trying to have fun on my own, but it&#8217;s so difficult. I think here is the key.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m aware that huge parts of my life were based on a false truth (false misconceptions, they say) and on false values. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know who I am, how I am. Trying to discover, trying to forget all the ugly times. The anger is here and I would like to break a mirror, sometimes. I was so naive and let myself so deeply hurt. How was that possible?</p>
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		<title>By: Used</title>
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		<dc:creator>Used</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you did not work with him, things may have been different:  your getting angry with him and going NC may have been met with different behavior from him--he would either have left your life, for good (meaning permanently) or pretty much for good (meaning he&#039;d talk to you or call you when he would see you, otherwise it&#039;s &quot;outta sight, outta mind&quot;) OR he would have started the chase again.  Also, is he married?  This also affects things.  But I think that the workplace environment itself lends itself to making it easier for these types of &quot;men&quot; to feel less badly about, and less resposibility for, their actions, b/c the women they involve themselves with HAVE to shut up about any personal stuff and respond and be nice when spoken to by one of these idiots.  

I think it&#039;s funny how they don&#039;t want to look and feel like the bad guy when you run into them again after it&#039;s all over.  To me, that is the essence of their assclown-hood.  I swear, that is how I look at these guys now:  I see them as clowns!  I mean it!  I look at them and see clowns!  I even laugh to myself about it.  

Thank you, Natalie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you did not work with him, things may have been different:  your getting angry with him and going NC may have been met with different behavior from him&#8211;he would either have left your life, for good (meaning permanently) or pretty much for good (meaning he&#8217;d talk to you or call you when he would see you, otherwise it&#8217;s &#8220;outta sight, outta mind&#8221;) OR he would have started the chase again.  Also, is he married?  This also affects things.  But I think that the workplace environment itself lends itself to making it easier for these types of &#8220;men&#8221; to feel less badly about, and less resposibility for, their actions, b/c the women they involve themselves with HAVE to shut up about any personal stuff and respond and be nice when spoken to by one of these idiots.  </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s funny how they don&#8217;t want to look and feel like the bad guy when you run into them again after it&#8217;s all over.  To me, that is the essence of their assclown-hood.  I swear, that is how I look at these guys now:  I see them as clowns!  I mean it!  I look at them and see clowns!  I even laugh to myself about it.  </p>
<p>Thank you, Natalie!</p>
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		<title>By: Zuleka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zuleka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it’s frustrating to continue to expect from someone who continuously backtracks and underdelivers – you are bound to be angry but it’s important to recognise that you’re setting yourself up for further anger by continuing to expect and not see them for what they are.&#8221;</p>
<p>Amen to that. I tend to call people on it and create consequences – but often the consequences are not severe enough. Really, for a repeat offence, the only consequence is to cut the person out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOVE your blog. 

Thanks for putting the info on here that has taken me many years of experience (and reading) to even begin to  understand.

You are helping to STOP the MADNESS for others like us.

Thanks so much!
Jennifer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOVE your blog. </p>
<p>Thanks for putting the info on here that has taken me many years of experience (and reading) to even begin to  understand.</p>
<p>You are helping to STOP the MADNESS for others like us.</p>
<p>Thanks so much!<br />
Jennifer</p>
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		<title>By: Trinity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad your doing well. Was thinking about you the other day. Good work with the NC!!!!! The cheek that your x showed walking up to chat to you shows just how arrogant and disrespectful he is.

Natalie this is great, thank you :)
You rock!
Since I&#039;m at the anger/acceptance stage this really helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad your doing well. Was thinking about you the other day. Good work with the NC!!!!! The cheek that your x showed walking up to chat to you shows just how arrogant and disrespectful he is.</p>
<p>Natalie this is great, thank you <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
You rock!<br />
Since I&#8217;m at the anger/acceptance stage this really helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Daviece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daviece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natalie, I just want to say that I&#039;ve been reading this blog going on about 2 months or so. I can&#039;t tell you how instrumental it has been in helping me through my journey of personal growth.

Thank you for this blog. It seems to always be dead on. (Please don&#039;t stop what you&#039;re doing!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natalie, I just want to say that I&#8217;ve been reading this blog going on about 2 months or so. I can&#8217;t tell you how instrumental it has been in helping me through my journey of personal growth.</p>
<p>Thank you for this blog. It seems to always be dead on. (Please don&#8217;t stop what you&#8217;re doing!)</p>
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		<title>By: Moving on in 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moving on in 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wendy:</p>
<p>&#8220;When they come back and say “sorry”, it’s only bcuz they’re lonely or need an ego stroke….or they want to make contact to prove to themselves they “aren’t a bad guy”. They aren’t sorry.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;.You are SO right.  You couldn&#8217;t have said it any better.  His contact with me at work was a facade.  He didn&#8217;t want to look like the a**hole he is.  He will never be sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Moving on in 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moving on in 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Failure to get validation about someone else’s wrongdoing towards you by show of remorse, apology etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Feeling that you give too much – something I refer to as overgiving&#8221;</p>
<p>Natalie-You hit on two main points that I found myself associated with in my relationship with my ex-EUM.  </p>
<p>Throughout our relationship when things went wrong (going cold), I thought that getting mad and no contact when I would see him at work would make him come back to me or that he would realize that he was making a mistake.  I was living in a fantasy world where I thought he would apologize for leading me on and treating me poorly.  Boy, was I wrong.  It just made me look more stupid because I fell into his trap twice.    </p>
<p>I was also a &#8220;victim&#8221; of overgiving.  He initially pursued me at the beginning of the relationship.  Then over time, I caught myself calling and texting him to do things (movies, cooking dinner at my house, etc)and when this started to happen, he seemed to lose interest in me.  He would say he was busy or that he wasn&#8217;t available.  Of the few handful of times he asked me to do things, he definitely was throwing crumbs and I unfortunately threw three loaves back.</p>
<p>I have to say that I&#8217;ve been doing well with NC since 1/22 because he works remotely.  However, he came back to the office last week for some meetings and my close coworker friends had warned me that he would be in for one day and for happy hour after work, so I ended up working from home to dodge the bullet.  Unfortunately the next day before he left for the airport, he stopped in the office and had the gall to walk to my cube and start talking to me.  He acted as if nothing had ever happened between us.  Apparently, the email I sent him before he went away didn&#8217;t resonate with him when I told him that I no longer wanted to be friends with him.  I will not count this encounter against me in my quest for permanent NC since he came and talked to me <img src='http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />      </p>
<p>Natalie-thank you for continuing to be my therapy.  You have truly been my saving grace.  I can feel myself getting stronger each day.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ll start with a couple boundaries. There are a lot of insecure women out here who are afraid noone will like them for them. In turn, they could possibly see me as an easy target for exploiting because I cannot see them like a lot of other people can. People have exploited me in the past (I got pocketed on a corner in Seattle a few years ago) and people who aren’t as ethical as they ”used” to be have attempted to exploit me because they want an easy way out. They like to believe since I’m blind, I must see a prince somewhere inside the frogs that they are now—even if it is just a teeny bit of a prince, but I do not. I do not believe all people are good. By the way, I like your idea of a frog as a visual representation of behavior. I couldn’t think of a better one. I haven’t really been exploited by insecure women, but that doesn’t mean it won’t ever happen. If that insecurity that the women have is what the relationship is based on, I’m going to have to tell them no. Another one is because of what my friends and my ex-girlfriend see. They don’t wan to see me with someone who is going to take advantage of me, take everything from me, and leave me with nothing. To my friends and ex-girlfriend, I’m generally a nice guy and will help those who actually need and want to be helped. IfI feel they do not want to be helped, I will not bother to help them help themselves. My friends and ex-girlfriend are very protective of me and will tell me if something is not right, but I cannot always rely on them. I have to learn to look for red flags myself.</p>
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