‘Lately I’ve been having some doubts about where to meet men because I’m tired of clubs. All the guys there just want a “one night stand”, and most of the time they’re kind of drunk so that’s not cool … I want more maybe not a serious relationship but a guy you can date a couple times and have a good time with… I’m not really old enough to turn to a dating website and I don’t feel lonely cause I don’t have a guy right now..’
NML says: The trouble is that you’re in conflict. You say you want to meet guys that aren’t just trying to get into your knickers but you don’t want a serious relationship, and ideally you want someone you can go and have a couple of dates with. On top of this you want him to behave like a man who is having fun but not too much fun. This is why you are struggling because you want too much out of something that you profess to want little more than two dates out of.
Dating is difficult but it’s made harder by the fact that there are lots of people out there dating who don’t know what they want and are conflicted. This sends out mixed messages and further adds to a lot of people walking around like headless chickens in the dating world.
Dating is really about spending time around someone with a view to possibly taking things further.
It gives you the opportunity to get to know someone and decide whether it’s something you want to take to the next level. There is no rule that says that you can’t date if you don’t want something serious, however, this does alter what type of dating experience you will have. On top of this, you will inadvertently lead some guys up the garden path if you are unclear about what you want. Next thing you know he’s thinking you really like him and that you could be something special whereas you’re done after two dates.
Men are quite literal. If you turn around and say you want to be taken out, to have a couple of dates, and fun, they’ll treat you accordingly. Around a half decent guy, he’ll do just that but around the average guy that hears a woman say she just wants fun, he’ll hear that as ‘she’s up for a shag’ and chance his arm.
Part of me feels that even though it is annoying when guys do seem to want to find out the colour of your knickers more than they want to know you, if all you want is some fun and a couple of dates, these are actually probably your ideal candidates.
The amount of legwork you put into finding men should be proportionate to the type of dating experience you want.
If all you genuinely want is to have some fun on a couple of dates, I wouldn’t go turning the town upside down looking for potential suitors. I’d take your chances with the guys you meet out socially.
But you need to decide what you want. If you don’t want something serious, that’s fine. Go out, enjoy yourself, and just be mindful of going from single girl about town enjoying herself and avoiding something serious, to single girl about town who is avoiding commitment. It happens all the time and you can fall into some really bad love habits unless you pay close attention to how you manage your single life and how much you let yourself get drawn in or affected by the guys you meet.
The place is not always a reflection of the type of guy you will meet, but as a rule of thumb, if you don’t like the type of men you’re meeting in the places where you go, change places.
Avoid trying to meet men at work because I have enough experience of myself and other readers to know that you really shouldn’t pee on your own doorstep.
Speed dating and singles functions are fun and can give you a quick fix of male attention. Be careful though of getting into a rut with these as they can make you overtly picky and/or get you hooked on collecting attention.
Meeting people through hobbies and interests is always a good one as you will already share common ground, however this is more important when you’re looking for a potential partner.
Art galleries, scavenger hunts, wine tasting, an evening course, the gym (although remember it might be awkward afterwards), DIY stores (look helpless with a chainsaw or something in an aisle where there are lots of men walking around), borrow a dog if you don’t have one and go for a walk in the park, or sports.
I am not a big fan of online dating irrespective of age simply for the fact that it has more liars and men pretending they’re single when they really have a girlfriend or a wife so you won’t find me steering you in that direction!
The ideal for you is doing those dinner date things – good food, wine, and a group of people who are likely to gel with your personality. Eightateight (US) or Whosfordinner(UK).
My advice to you though is to figure out what you want. You need to manage your expectations accordingly because if what you want is fun, then worrying about what these guys want from you is a waste of energy. Just because a guy wants a one night stand, doesn’t mean he gets one. Go out and have fun and be careful of expecting men to behave like potential boyfriends when they’re unlikely to be around beyond a third date….
I can see where the author is coming from. Usually when you’re single, you don’t want to spend saturday night alone at home, and want some social interaction and usually, it’s places like clubs where you’ll go. They play good music and have nice settings, but i guess the key thing is not to expect to meet your ideal partner there, but just to relax, have a good time with friends, and if you do meet anyone interesting, well, that’s just a bonus. In my experience, I have yet to meet anyone truly fantastic, but I have had friends who met their partners at food and music festivals.
Hot Alpha Female
on 29/01/2008 at 11:37 am
Hey there,
Thats a really interesting topic there. I think the number one reason why we have trouble finding good guys to date or let alone getting dates is because we focus too much time and attention on it. Its almost like desparation and guys can sense this a mile away.
How many times have we heard the stories of people finding great partners when they were at least expecting it. Many couples got toegther, when they were sworn off the opposite sex.
I think that the best thing to do when you are single is to focus on yourself. Figure out why your last couple of relationships failed and what you could learn from there. Go out there and enjoy the things that make you happy. And for once enjoy the fact that you are single!!!
I think we will spend much more days married than we will single .. so we might as well enjoy them while we can.
In terms of dating guys though, i would say you need to know what charcateristics you are looking for in a guy as a general guideline. Im not saying a massive list, but thinking about things that are absoletluy none negotiable. That way you know what you are looking for and are able to date much more appropiate men for you.
It also allows you to focus on being the type of person that your ideal mate would be attracted to. So for instance if you wanted to be with someone who was loyal, patient and kind … then you would have to focus on being more of that yourself!
Ok I have a question…. wasnt really sure where or what it would be related to but anyway
I have this great friend , who is just in love with me, loves my kids, would do anything for me. He is a GREAT guy, good job, funny, kind, great family man, we have such a good time around eachother,……he would be the perfect partner, role model, and husband……… BUT he is a bit overweight, and I’m just not sure if I can be sexually attracted to him.
I hate to even say that because I feel that its shallow, but lets face it most women want to have that attraction before anything.
I have dated the “wrong” kinda man, my whole life, have 3 kids from the wrong kinda man….. I dont want to continue to live my life alone. I am currently w an EUM but trying to decide what to do….. I’m not looking to get into a relationship right now with my friend but I do know that if I ever wanted to I could. I just want to know if anyone thinks that you can become more attracted to a person because of who they are over time? I have wondered that for a long time…. we dont get to see eachother much so I do wonder if it were on a daily basis if it would be different, but not so sure. Is physical attraction a deal braker??
thanks
Ronke
on 04/03/2008 at 12:46 pm
Thanks for the mention on your blog – it can be difficult to get out there but meeting people and actively going on dates does work eventually! One just has to keep trying.
No problem at all! Glad to mention you guys. Think it’s a really great idea 🙂
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Hi,
I can see where the author is coming from. Usually when you’re single, you don’t want to spend saturday night alone at home, and want some social interaction and usually, it’s places like clubs where you’ll go. They play good music and have nice settings, but i guess the key thing is not to expect to meet your ideal partner there, but just to relax, have a good time with friends, and if you do meet anyone interesting, well, that’s just a bonus. In my experience, I have yet to meet anyone truly fantastic, but I have had friends who met their partners at food and music festivals.
Hey there,
Thats a really interesting topic there. I think the number one reason why we have trouble finding good guys to date or let alone getting dates is because we focus too much time and attention on it. Its almost like desparation and guys can sense this a mile away.
How many times have we heard the stories of people finding great partners when they were at least expecting it. Many couples got toegther, when they were sworn off the opposite sex.
I think that the best thing to do when you are single is to focus on yourself. Figure out why your last couple of relationships failed and what you could learn from there. Go out there and enjoy the things that make you happy. And for once enjoy the fact that you are single!!!
I think we will spend much more days married than we will single .. so we might as well enjoy them while we can.
In terms of dating guys though, i would say you need to know what charcateristics you are looking for in a guy as a general guideline. Im not saying a massive list, but thinking about things that are absoletluy none negotiable. That way you know what you are looking for and are able to date much more appropiate men for you.
It also allows you to focus on being the type of person that your ideal mate would be attracted to. So for instance if you wanted to be with someone who was loyal, patient and kind … then you would have to focus on being more of that yourself!
Hot Alpha Female
http://www.hotalphafemale.blogspot.com
Ok I have a question…. wasnt really sure where or what it would be related to but anyway
I have this great friend , who is just in love with me, loves my kids, would do anything for me. He is a GREAT guy, good job, funny, kind, great family man, we have such a good time around eachother,……he would be the perfect partner, role model, and husband……… BUT he is a bit overweight, and I’m just not sure if I can be sexually attracted to him.
I hate to even say that because I feel that its shallow, but lets face it most women want to have that attraction before anything.
I have dated the “wrong” kinda man, my whole life, have 3 kids from the wrong kinda man….. I dont want to continue to live my life alone. I am currently w an EUM but trying to decide what to do….. I’m not looking to get into a relationship right now with my friend but I do know that if I ever wanted to I could. I just want to know if anyone thinks that you can become more attracted to a person because of who they are over time? I have wondered that for a long time…. we dont get to see eachother much so I do wonder if it were on a daily basis if it would be different, but not so sure. Is physical attraction a deal braker??
thanks
Thanks for the mention on your blog – it can be difficult to get out there but meeting people and actively going on dates does work eventually! One just has to keep trying.
R
Whosfordinner.com
No problem at all! Glad to mention you guys. Think it’s a really great idea 🙂